Please Stop Genderlocking Gear

[Rithy255]

To each their own, seems like you're not so accepting of other opinions are you ? And great, my opinion isn't here to please you or anybody else in this thread. Goes likewise in that regard.

Because your opinion isn't based in facts its based solely in how you feel, I don't think opinions should be based on your emotions alone. You haven't given me any opinion other then you don't like visually seeing men in tights, which if we want to go on that basis why should women be able to wear that, but I concede talking to you about this will get us nowhere because you can't see past your own emotions.

Each to their own, I won't have to like/accept bad opinions, I can respect different perspectives to a degree, but I'll have zero respect for a opinion founded on hate and nothing else thank you, have a nice day.

[SophiaDL]

Because your opinion isn't based in facts its based solely in how you feel, I don't think opinions should be based on your emotions alone. You haven't given me any opinion other then you don't like visually seeing men in tights, which if we want to go on that basis why should women be able to wear that, but I concede talking to you about this will get us nowhere because you can't see past your own emotions.

Each to their own, I won't have to like/accept bad opinions, I can respect different perspectives to a degree, but I'll have zero respect for a opinion founded on hate and nothing else thank you, have a nice day.

The fact you call me saying male characters shouldnt be able to wear female tights in a video game " hate " is very questionable, but have a good day too!

Really unfortunate to be fair that because of people like you and one or two others in this thread (not you Evermomo) the term "hate" really doesnt mean much anymore since its so overused left and right in contexts that make absolutely no sense.

If that's what you take from what I've said then you clearly don't actually have any critical thinking skills.

The "hate" comes from why you feel that way not because your against men wearing tights, it legit comes from no factual basis other then "it upsets me to see men in tights".

If you don't want to call it hate, we can call it disgust or whatever you want, doesn't really change that your perspective has no actual backing.

Why do I need to be "upset" by it ? Or disgusted? Can one not dislike something anymore without it being disgust or hatred ?

Also for someone talking about my "hatred", you seem to be very volatile about this topic and over-aggressive.

Like I said call it whatever you want, I'm not your therapist. If you cannot understand why you dislike something then it's on you to go figure it out rather then spouting your nonsense viewpoints when you can't even understand yourself.

Again, you seem very over-aggressive and volatile, seems you're just unable to talk properly without going to "hate" and "disgust" or pointless attacks.

And I do understand why I dislike it, I already have said so, it doesn't fit the game, period. There's already more than enough female clothing for males in the game.

[Rithy255]

The fact you call me saying male characters shouldnt be able to wear female tights in a video game " hate " is very questionable, but have a good day too!

Really unfortunate to be fair that because of people like you and one or two others in this thread (not you Evermomo) the term "hate" really doesnt mean much anymore since its so overused left and right in contexts that make absolutely no sense.

If that's what you take from what I've said then you clearly don't actually have any critical thinking skills.

The "hate" comes from why you feel that way not because your against men wearing tights, it legit comes from no factual basis other then "it upsets me to see men in tights".

If you don't want to call it hate, we can call it disgust or whatever you want, doesn't really change that your perspective has no actual backing (other then the obvious wah wah i don't like it :c)

Why do I need to be "upset" by it ? Or disgusted? Can one not dislike something anymore without it being disgust or hatred ?

Like I said call it whatever you want, I'm not your therapist. If you cannot understand why you dislike something then it's on you to go figure it out rather then spouting your nonsense viewpoints when you can't even understand yourself.

[Rithy255]

Again, you seem very over-aggressive and volatile, seems you're just unable to talk properly without going to "hate" and "disgust" or pointless attacks.

And I do understand why I dislike it, I already have said so, it doesn't fit the game, period. There's already more than enough female clothing for males in the game.

I'm really not being over-aggressive, I don't think you really know what being aggressive means, you hyper focus on me saying words like hate and disgust because you have no actual argument other then to nitpick. I said call it what you want it's obviously a negative opinion on feminine men.

What about it doesn't fit the game, other then the fact it's already in the game, I'd honestly somewhat agree that I don't really feel like skimpy outfits "fit the game" but this applies to women too, if they want to add skimpy outfits and leggings why should it be exclusive to women is the heart of the argument which you seem to want to avoid

[Evermomo]

Because real life isnt a video game, that's it.

What is it about a video game specifically? I'm asking because I can't tell why this distinction matters to you, and it wouldn't be fair to assume your thinking. I don't want to bombard you with questions, but it's the only way to understand what you're saying.

For example, is it because of development time and resources?
Earlier, you said you didn't want to see it. Is there something different about seeing it in real life vs seeing it in the game that changes your opinion?
If there's already feminine clothing for men-- there's already masculine clothing for men. There are many, many trousers almost identical the ones they just added. Wouldn't this mean that we don't need any more new glams, either masculine or feminine, for men or for women?

[GrizzlyTank]

Still continues to be one of the more infuriating things with fashion.

Especially since this way it's less likely to get fixed.

[Nero-Voidstails]

I mean I solely disagree on the basis that we should gender lock certain types of gear, if it's not appropriate for men to wear it's also not appropriate for women to wear I feel like to come to a different conclusion you must hold some internal bias, I don't even like looking at men in 2b leggings myself (mostly because I'm only attracted to women), but I can see how 2b leggings on women would also possibly be room for uncomfortably for certain people.

The problem is there isn't really a "middle ground" you are either against men expressing themselves more feminine publicly or your fine with that, the idea that theirs middle ground isn't really founded obviously you can not care but I feel if you do not care how men dress up would mean you'd agree with me, at least in the idea that you wouldn't mind either way if feminine male options were added (it really shouldn't be a big deal imo).

Obviously I am LGBT so I do have some bias and I can admit that, I feel like the person you replied to had a valid point and theirs obviously people who are being blatantly bigoted, I also don't want to act like some poor victim but I can understand being tired of seeing constant complaining about peoples gender or sexuality and people wishing bad intent on people does actually become tiring, I feel like if you really don't understand it (from what I'm assuming is a straight persons perspective) you tend to hear just both sides having a screaming contest.

If you don't really want to engage with people that are LGBT (for example if someone is trans) theirs a difference on not engaging vs purposely baiting a reaction by misgendering them and just being outright rude, I can even understand slipping up but if you come at people hostile or baiting anger or upset it's not really a surprise when you get a response of them being upset.

Lastly I don't really want to assume much about you either way I also have no context on what you said that would get people to call you what they did, from my view I really find it hard that a lot of people are truly "neutral" but that's also based on my bias and past experiences with people.


Good for you I'm a lesbian and don't like looking at men wearing tights but if women should be able to wear them what's wrong with men wearing them, again it seems like rules for me not for thee, your sexuality doesn't change your opinion, making no sense.

trans I don't mind at all I am pansexual I just think it show a overall bad light to the community because I see this as man laughing of woman and I aren't even woman irl

[Destati]

I am so, so tired of the guys getting boring slacks or tights.
I love that despite them going back to make all the previously genderlocked sets available to everyone they're still pulling this crap. And it's worse because it's tied to one set and now they can't unlock them unless they make like, glamour copies of the equipment or something.

Look, I'm grateful that they unlocked those sets, and I understand that it's probably a lot more work than it's worth to adapt the different models to both genders (not going to go into the "indie game company" crap right now), but I wish they would just give everyone access to both options from the offset if they're going to make drastic differences like this.

Not asking for a single unisex model, just please give people options.

[Evermomo]

trans I don't mind at all I am pansexual I just think it show a overall bad light to the community because I see this as man laughing of woman and I aren't even woman irl

I don't think there's any need to get offended on behalf of women. Personally, what a male character wears in a video game isn't disrespectful to me, or laughing at me. It's just clothes.

If you're worried about women's dignity; designing sexy clothes for women, and Only women, degrades them and objectifies them for men. But if the same glams are available to everyone, then it's fair game, because nobody is patronizing to you what you "should" wear because of your gender. Does that make sense?

[Jaltaer]

"We want gear with the gender locks removed!"
finger on the monkey's paw curls
the devs: "okay sure, we'll give you a single gear piece that both genders can use, but each one is going to have a separate model. but the gear piece itself isn't genderlocked, isn't this what you wanted??"