Please Stop Genderlocking Gear

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Being part of lgbtqia+ does not make one immune from being queerphobia. A person can be one and still be a phobe themself. Thinking that's silly is even sillier, it's not a rocket science. Maybe actually focus on the thread's point: "Genderlock removal provides more options for all players that's beneficial at best, and indifferent at worst".

Also funny people bring up "special thing for women and you want to take it away" - when there had been obvious requests in the past from the opposite spectrum i.e. female characters wanting to have male's neo ishgardian but was given a dress instead; female characters not wanting to be given skimpy after skimpy clothing; casual halfslops turning into casual shortpants; better yet? See almost entire NieR raid pieces between both genders. Should we then, call them out for 'wanting to take special thing from men' (rhetoric)?

I'm not getting into that ungodly notion, but even if you ignore that, the demand is there, and they had actually complied on some pieces (Valentione Rose/Acacia/Forget-me-nots, Far Easterns Lady/Lord, Nezha set, and so on!). We should be asking for better. Why should we be treating like they're some indie devs that SE cannot fund? lol...

[Annabellechu]

Congrats you got my husband banned... for your information he himself is bi and accusing him of being "queerphobia" is just silly. You just wanna be right and dont care for anything else. Your side argues "but its a game not real life" yet you go and say "but some want their char to fit their body type"...

SE gave you a finger and you want the whole arm, like usual...


Theres a HUGE difference between earrings, some haripins or literally bikini or brides dress. Its the special thing for women and you want to take it away because you dont wanna play a girl but "play" a girl. There are gender roles, the dress belongs to girls, period.

Two man, two girls, all is fine. Stop using "-phobe" as your magic word for everyone who doesnt support your opinions... we also had quite some trans ingame friends (most stopped playing) and we never had issues. But have fun, go on and report me as well, i dont use the forum these days anyways...

Just try to ban and report everyone you dont like.



I share his opinion that while some gear sure is fine, Kimonos, Robes, heck some Scottish Kilt... everything is fine. But some stuff should stay exclusive or at least get adapted versions.

Pretty sure if someone gets banned, it's their own fault and not someone else's but what do I know.

[Supersnow845]

I love how the example of a bikini is used

Do yall know that speedos are just as much of a men’s swimsuit as bikinis are women’s

Like this reeks of America centric prudish expectations

[Ascended_Demon]

Congrats you got my husband banned... for your information he himself is bi and accusing him of being "queerphobia" is just silly.

Being part of a marginalized group, does not prevent you from bearing prejudice against that group, it's all been internalized. Thinking that someone is "exempt" because they're part of the group? That's...not a good look, it's also not true. Many queer people will live some portion of their life not knowing they are and will be exposed to the beliefs and values of society that place them as "lesser" and those don't just disappear overnight. They need to acknowledge them where they came from and why they are harmful. I strongly suggest you and your husband reflect on this together.

[SeriousPan]

I've been playing Dragon Quest X Online lately and got really annoyed at some of the most blatant gender differences in gear I've seen in an MMO. As a small example if you wanted to have a Patisserie Chef glamour for your character then you're out of luck. Only men are allowed to look like that, women instead get a waitress outfit. The gear is identical and changes depending on what gender character is wearing it.



Like come on man. I just wanna look like a cool chef. lol So I'm for it, give people the options. They've added variant gear before with the Island Sanctuary so why not do the same here?

[Batbrat]

Congrats you got my husband banned... for your information he himself is bi and accusing him of being "queerphobia" is just silly. You just wanna be right and dont care for anything else. Your side argues "but its a game not real life" yet you go and say "but some want their char to fit their body type"...
SE gave you a finger and you want the whole arm, like usual...
Theres a HUGE difference between earrings, some haripins or literally bikini or brides dress. Its the special thing for women and you want to take it away because you dont wanna play a girl but "play" a girl. There are gender roles, the dress belongs to girls, period.
Two man, two girls, all is fine. Stop using "-phobe" as your magic word for everyone who doesnt support your opinions... we also had quite some trans ingame friends (most stopped playing) and we never had issues. But have fun, go on and report me as well, i dont use the forum these days anyways...
Just try to ban and report everyone you dont like.
I share his opinion that while some gear sure is fine, Kimonos, Robes, heck some Scottish Kilt... everything is fine. But some stuff should stay exclusive or at least get adapted versions.

I am a woman, and I am telling you posts like yours are entirely based on your personal politics and do not belong here.
We're talking about outfits in a video game. This isnt real life. I'm not being robbed of anything because a hroth is in a dress.
My uterus doesnt vanish over anything FFXIV does.

I don't want to keep repeating myself, because as we can see it does nothing. So instead I will say this.
If you are in favor of having glam genderlocks removed, it is in your best interest to simply ignore posters like this. I know, I'm not doing that right now, but this person is a great example.

Notice how they begin by talking about their feelings over their husband.
Since when are we couples therapists? Doesnt belong here.
Then, notice how they begin to talk about their feelings toward politics.
Again, doesnt matter. Irrelevant, does not belong here.
This is video game dress up, not PoliSci class.
What they want from you when they do this, is nothing but your attention.
They know they're off-topic, and they know they're not making any real points.
Since they know they have no real argument against the main subject, they instead deflect to something they think will get a rise out of you, to try getting you to invest time into them instead-arguing back and forth over their personal feelings.

Waste of time.
"Anemone, why is giving players more glam options a bad thing?"
Ok, now this is the part they either have no response, or start rage-listing their highly emotional feelings. Both are hilarious.

[PercibelTheren]

Congrats you got my husband banned... for your information he himself is bi and accusing him of being "queerphobia" is just silly. You just wanna be right and dont care for anything else. Your side argues "but its a game not real life" yet you go and say "but some want their char to fit their body type"...

SE gave you a finger and you want the whole arm, like usual...


Theres a HUGE difference between earrings, some haripins or literally bikini or brides dress. Its the special thing for women and you want to take it away because you dont wanna play a girl but "play" a girl. There are gender roles, the dress belongs to girls, period.

Two man, two girls, all is fine. Stop using "-phobe" as your magic word for everyone who doesnt support your opinions... we also had quite some trans ingame friends (most stopped playing) and we never had issues. But have fun, go on and report me as well, i dont use the forum these days anyways...

Just try to ban and report everyone you dont like.



I share his opinion that while some gear sure is fine, Kimonos, Robes, heck some Scottish Kilt... everything is fine. But some stuff should stay exclusive or at least get adapted versions.

In all honesty? Cry me a river. You are trying to impose your own opinions on everyone else. Eorzea is not Earth. Their culture doesn't have to be the same as the US and Europe. That person got banned for a good reason and I'm glad the mods are finally doing their job for once.

[PercibelTheren]

Being part of a marginalized group, does not prevent you from bearing prejudice against that group, it's all been internalized.

And in a group that's as diverse as the queer community, there are warring factions. There are cis queer people who hate transgender people. There are monosexuals who hate the bi's and the pan's, etc.

[Aidorouge]

And in a group that's as diverse as the queer community, there are warring factions. There are cis queer people who hate transgender people. There are monosexuals who hate the bi's and the pan's, etc.

Aye, I found out how "not so nice" some LGBTQ folks can be when I heard about "bi-erasure" and discovered that it wasn't just heterosexual folks that think "oh its just a phase" but also homosexual ones who think "oh you're just being closeted still". No, I'm pretty sure I like both genders and it has nothing to do with experimentation or denial.

As well, there's some trans folks that think all femboys and butches are "eggs" that need to be guided into going MtF or FtM when the person is quite comfortable with their cis identity, they just like to present feminine or masculine.

Those are benign examples admittedly, but it's still examples of gay or trans people not acting wholly accepting of others in their own community and sometimes being judgemental or pushy about it.

[SophiaDL]

In all honesty? Cry me a river. You are trying to impose your own opinions on everyone else. Eorzea is not Earth. Their culture doesn't have to be the same as the US and Europe. That person got banned for a good reason and I'm glad the mods are finally doing their job for once.

This you?

Also no idea why previous poster removed their post, they made a good point.