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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn View Post
    probably too much cost for a dev team with apparently so little manpower.
    I genuinely wonder if this is an excuse or actually the truth. And if it is true, I just don't understand that decision on SE's part. XIV is by far their biggest cash cow. They literally have a golden goose and they're starving it. Makes no sense to me but I'm not a business exec or investor, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    I genuinely wonder if this is an excuse or actually the truth. And if it is true, I just don't understand that decision on SE's part. XIV is by far their biggest cash cow. They literally have a golden goose and they're starving it. Makes no sense to me but I'm not a business exec or investor, I guess.
    I dont think it really matters wether it's the truth or just an excuse, they reason for both is bad management.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    It's also literally more work to make multiple models of the same gear.. If resources is the issue, then there should only be one version of any gear. (I also agree that having both models available to both genders is the best way to go, but this point still stands. There is absolutely no reason for it to be radically different based on character gender.)
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    Finally out of the gay baby jail... and somehow this thread is still going.
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    The things I do for the glam...

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    At the end of the day, FFXIV is fiction, so what is wrong with allowing players to dress up their characters like they want?
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    THIS and also SE better be SURE both genders have access to both 7.4 variant models

    THIS THIS THIS

    I'm also here looking for a thread about the new variant teased gear for 7.4 because I'm really scared they're going to make it genderlocked like this too. If bun girls are running around in the first image with the thigh draperies and my bun boy character can't wear it even though it's exactly his style I might actually cry. But the occult crescent stuff has shaken my trust in the devs with gender-locked gear. I thought they were getting better, and then this happened. Yuwe gear isn't as egregious but the girls still get cute shorts while the guys have dull pants again. Aaand then there's the new pvp gear, with the adorable shorts with the half-leggings and tie.. for female models only. Other posters are right that it's so egregious it feels kind of sexist and gross.

    It's shocking because I also thought we were over this.

    Please re-establish my faith and make it so both genders have access to both versions of 7.4's variant gear.



    Link to an x post where a bunch of the comments are people being worried it will be genderlocked.

    https://x.com/kiwicat_tv/status/1984...I0qLOoSySWJuqA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragondancer View Post
    THIS THIS THIS

    I'm also here looking for a thread about the new variant teased gear for 7.4 because I'm really scared they're going to make it genderlocked like this too. If bun girls are running around in the first image with the thigh draperies and my bun boy character can't wear it even though it's exactly his style I might actually cry. But the occult crescent stuff has shaken my trust in the devs with gender-locked gear. I thought they were getting better, and then this happened. Yuwe gear isn't as egregious but the girls still get cute shorts while the guys have dull pants again. Aaand then there's the new pvp gear, with the adorable shorts with the half-leggings and tie.. for female models only. Other posters are right that it's so egregious it feels kind of sexist and gross.

    It's shocking because I also thought we were over this.

    Please re-establish my faith and make it so both genders have access to both versions of 7.4's variant gear.



    Link to an x post where a bunch of the comments are people being worried it will be genderlocked.

    https://x.com/kiwicat_tv/status/1984...I0qLOoSySWJuqA
    I don't think those are genderlocked... at least not with the image being the male/female comparison, simply because while those 2 sets seem to live in the same Thavnairian fantasy, if you examine it bit by bit you'll see that they don't resemble each other at all.

    Look at the hands, the details, etc. Usually when a set changes for the male/female models, they still retain a semblance of the elements even if the silhouette changes.

    Edit: Unless they're separate sets exclusive to each gender (e.g. left one not being able to be used by male characters, and vice versa)... which is hard to believe since they don't do this, idk, ever since Stormblood? And it goes against their work of removing the genderlocking from old items.
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    Last edited by Raikai; 11-02-2025 at 12:20 PM.

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    The one thing that really bugs me about these, gendered-clothing-wise, is the bike shorts under the male open-sided pants. It really looks like they either need to commit to the skimpy look or completely fill it in, not this awkward halfway-there length.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The one thing that really bugs me about these, gendered-clothing-wise, is the bike shorts under the male open-sided pants. It really looks like they either need to commit to the skimpy look or completely fill it in, not this awkward halfway-there length.
    Yeah, I was also concerned when I saw the new glam promo pics if they were previewing the same set or not, but hope springs eternal.

    The genuine mystery is why SE is scared of revealing men's thighs and legs that they gave him modest shorts but not for women
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The one thing that really bugs me about these, gendered-clothing-wise, is the bike shorts under the male open-sided pants. It really looks like they either need to commit to the skimpy look or completely fill it in, not this awkward halfway-there length.
    Square just seems to hate at this point briefs/speedos for men and outfits that reveal the chest/shoulders that aren’t just completely topless

    Those bike shorts are so typical square enix for men
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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