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    I'm just going to say this now:

    unless you are a cishet white male in America, your existence is political, and it would be silly to deny it. Identity has very become a core of politics and capitalism in America, thus anything related something other than "the norm" is political. And gender expression is political. I'm sorry to the mods but trying to avoid politics on this is an absolutely fruitless effort as it is a part of identity and identity is a major part of politics.

    I mostly suggest, to the mods, to get this up the ladder asap instead of... sitting around moderating a political discussion because, at the core of this, is the fact we all thought we were getting stockings, and that was a false advertisement (the first ever photo of this equipment is the patch notes showing a female aura), so at this point I would settle for any f FUTURE pictures showing major discreppencies in gender beforehand.

    Though I would adore gender variants and genderlocking to stop entirely.
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    You know I'm happy to have gender locked gear....Jesus I'm so tired of gender neutral gear it look hideous like thanks for literally making semi hood gear....shame it doesn't have 2b boots cheeks but tiss good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakuyia View Post
    You know I'm happy to have gender locked gear....Jesus I'm so tired of gender neutral gear it look hideous like thanks for literally making semi hood gear....shame it doesn't have 2b boots cheeks but tiss good.
    This is cosplay glamour, based off of a FF5 character, so there was never a world where it would have been unisex. This means the gender locking didn't give you the tights, but it did take them away from other players who wanted them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evermomo View Post
    This is cosplay glamour, based off of a FF5 character, so there was never a world where it would have been unisex. This means the gender locking didn't give you the tights, but it did take them away from other players who wanted them.
    That's really not my problem. I'm not here to play someone personalize ff14 game. Gender locked is nice for fashion reasons. Yet making tons of gender neutral gear leaves boring ideas. My personal take keep gender locked or make a button to toggle fashion between male female.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakuyia View Post
    That's really not my problem. I'm not here to play someone personalize ff14 game. Gender locked is nice for fashion reasons. Yet making tons of gender neutral gear leaves boring ideas. My personal take keep gender locked or make a button to toggle fashion between male female.
    Outside of dancer fashion we have been at some of the highest amount of gender neutral items in the game with Dawntrail. And excluding the Yuweyawata pants debacle, I think this has probably some of the best designed gear since Shadowbringers.

    You don't need a gender lock to make fashion good. You need good designers to step up.

    Not to mention, I know PLENTY of women playing female characters who want the less slutty options men get or the more dapper options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdenElsewhere View Post

    Not to mention, I know PLENTY of women playing female characters who want the less slutty options men get or the more dapper options.
    Gear for women looking like it does in most MMOs is the reason I usually reach for a male character. If I play a tank, I want to look like a damn tank, not run around in a metal bikini. Admittedly, XIV is better with this than most other MMOs I've come across, but a lot of the female versions still get shorts and skirts for no good reason. I'm not saying we shouldn't get those at all, of course. I'd be happiest if we always got two versions of gear that work for everyone - a "reasonable" one (aka what male characters tend to get) and a "fantasy" one (the one women usually get).

    While we're at it, can we also please stop giving male characters ugly potato sacks while female characters get gorgeous dresses and pretty robes? That'd be really nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakuyia View Post
    That's really not my problem. I'm not here to play someone personalize ff14 game. Gender locked is nice for fashion reasons. Yet making tons of gender neutral gear leaves boring ideas. My personal take keep gender locked or make a button to toggle fashion between male female.
    Over half of the gear items your character is wearing right now are not gender-locked. It's possible to make feminine glams and unlock them for all players. The 2b leggings are an example of this.

    Toggles work by hiding or unhiding a portion of the model (like with hats and visors), so to do that, you would have to have an entire separate version of the costume constantly loaded. I think the most feasible thing to do is make feminine designs available to everyone from the start-- like they did with the rest of Lenna's set, with the chaotic gear, parts of the eden raids, crafted glams, and the previously mentioned national uniform of limsa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakuyia View Post
    You know I'm happy to have gender locked gear....Jesus I'm so tired of gender neutral gear it look hideous like thanks for literally making semi hood gear....shame it doesn't have 2b boots cheeks but tiss good.
    Good thing that's not what we're asking for. We just want to be able to wear both. Nothing else, just piece of clothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Good thing that's not what we're asking for. We just want to be able to wear both. Nothing else, just piece of clothing.
    No wonder fashion is boring I'm hoping occult gear is to your liking then it's gender neutral just the way you like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakuyia View Post
    No wonder fashion is boring I'm hoping occult gear is to your liking then it's gender neutral just the way you like it.
    Wooow that’s cool. Now can I wear both version on single character now?

    Rhetoric aside, I shall repeat: I want players to have the choice to wear both variants (looking at you neo ishgardian set grrr…). If one keeps interpreting that request as “So you want 1 unisex gear!”, I honestly start to think misconstruing ideas eloquently to be a quality they’re specifically looking for when they hire whoever’s in charge of parsing players’ feedbacks.

    EDIT: they can probably extend players’ stay in the content since now they have to grind for another set if that’s what they’re into. Hey! More reason to stay in the content!
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 06-03-2025 at 08:34 PM.

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