The Ever Growing Elephant: Summoner's Physick

[NobleWinter]

I would like to see Physick upgraded by a SMN trait to be more useful too. Of course it should scale off Intelligence even as an Arcanist, but I think it would be neat if the heal granted other party members a 30 second buff called "Reflect" and this would allow the Radiant Aegis Shield to be applied to them if used within the window. This would add a minor element of tactical planning to SMN that the job is sorely missing. If someone is taking so much damage you think Physick is needed than an extra shield is probably in order too. Being able to give it to multiple people in an emergency like both tanks for a dual tank buster after a healer death would be niche but fun. Spamming Physick in downtime to prepare the shared shield could be a real thing. Most of all it ties Reflect as an ability to Carbuncle and that throwback to the original summon usage makes me happy. As a later upgrade you could even make Physick reduce the cool down on Radiant Aegis by 5 seconds at level 50. Then for each expansion afterward increase the cool down reduction by one second as a trait upgrade. So 6 seconds in Heaven Ward, 7 in Stormbloob, 8 in Shadowbringers, etc. until it's a 10 second reduction in Dawntrail.

[chip793]

It's still a relevant heal at low level (petering off around the 35-40 mark where it's still not useless) which is nice for dungeon runs where your healer is a sprout and isn't as confident in keeping the tank alive. The reason it scales off mind is because it's not a SMN ability, it's an ACN one. Which branches into SCH, a healer. If they could cut it without imploding both jobs in their scotch-taped together 2.0 code they would've done it by now.

It's not integral to the SMN kit in any way, but it isn't completely useless 100% of the time. I even saved someone last raid tier with it, they survived a raidwide with ~200HP after I used it on them a couple times. Is that going to come up often? No. But it did. Much like the damage on SCH/SMN's autos it's almost vestigial, but isn't entirely useless and can make the difference between a wipe and a clear. It also heals a reasonable amount in Eureka with elemental gear which makes it semi-useful for soloing.

Just slap it on a tertiary bar for emergencies, it won't bite. Not like SMN has a whole lot of buttons to begin with.

[Khryseis_Astra]

The reason it scales off mind is because it's not a SMN ability, it's an ACN one. Which branches into SCH, a healer. If they could cut it without imploding both jobs in their scotch-taped together 2.0 code they would've done it by now.

Arcanist is a dps class up until the SMN/SCH split. They could just add it as a separate skill that does the same thing, and change the stat it’s using. After all, we have different versions of rez for the four healers, plus RDM’s Verraise. And with Lux, they’ve shown that SMN can have a strong heal based off its own stats, however inconvenient the availability of it is.

I would like SMN Physick to scale off INT and/or be the equivalent of Vercure or something like Second Wind. Not as good as a healer’s by any means, but good enough to keep you alive in a pinch. Otherwise it’s just sitting on my bar looking pretty. lol

[Chasingstars]

Man this really is a merry-go-round. These sentiments echoing years after endwalker first brought the reworked summoner.

And I will echo my old thoughts on it to CBU3: Fix physick. Either a trait that grants it int+mind scaling, or after summoning a relevant summon (phoenix and now lux-bahamut) it grants stacks that let you heal for a higher and greater value with physick.

[Raikai]

The reason it scales off mind is because it's not a SMN ability, it's an ACN one. Which branches into SCH, a healer. If they could cut it without imploding both jobs in their scotch-taped together 2.0 code they would've done it by now.

Actually this is outdated information. It used to be like that, the same action, SCH got their own instance of Physick (action#190 accodring to Garland Tools), while SMN got an ACN (action#16230) one still scaling with Mind, which was implemented in Stormblood.

[Khryseis_Astra]

Actually this is outdated information. It used to be like that, the same action, SCH got their own instance of Physick (action#190 accodring to Garland Tools), while SMN got an ACN (action#16230) one still scaling with Mind, which was implemented in Stormblood.

So the game already sees them as two different actions (as it should!), and they just never adjusted it to work for SMN’s stats all this time!

[Raikai]

So the game already sees them as two different actions (as it should!), and they just never adjusted it to work for SMN’s stats all this time!

Yeah, it is what it seems. In Stormblood they added this new instance of Physick to ACN/SMN and chose Mind for some reason. I keep asking myself, why even separate both Physicks then? Maybe they did want to fully separate SMN from SCH back then but nothing happened in that regard so... /shrug

[Wyssahtyn]

it's still funny the director went out of his way to reassure players that physick wasn't being removed during the, i think it was endwalker media tour and they still didn't bother to make it useful. clown devs tbh

[Anvaire]

it's still funny the director went out of his way to reassure players that physick wasn't being removed during the, i think it was endwalker media tour and they still didn't bother to make it useful. clown devs tbh

Thats because when they removed it and Sustain before, the community went mad and demanded it back. The stupid thing about it now though, is that back when that happened, Egi's still had HP so we needed it to heal them. Though why they put physick rather than sustain back i still dont know. Currently though, I think it should just go. Its utility, but to be honest, unless its there for job flavour, (like red mage) personally should just be removed. Same with the AoE heal we get from Shit Bahamut. Its hardly ever useful, so would be better if it wasnt there at all.

i just hope in 8.0 they add meaningful change to the job and not just "heres 3 new summons/demis/ upgraded spells that do exactly the same as the ones before."

[Raikai]

Man this really is a merry-go-round. These sentiments echoing years after endwalker first brought the reworked summoner.

And I will echo my old thoughts on it to CBU3: Fix physick. Either a trait that grants it int+mind scaling, or after summoning a relevant summon (phoenix and now lux-bahamut) it grants stacks that let you heal for a higher and greater value with physick.

It would be nice if (properly scaled) Physick could turn into the phoenix heal for <x> amount of seconds after you summon it... It was too often that the automatic healing it provided would go to waste.