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  1. #61
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    Itachi Otsutsuki
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    Lmao exactly isn't it terrifying when you actually think about it? HOW do the devs spent so much time developing new mechanics for the CE's and a bloody savage tier raid. But they CAN NOT do even one ounce of innovation to the exact same horrible game loop you mentioned.
    Like who actually enjoys staring at their map and running nonstop from FATE to FATE to CE under time stress? They somehow made it even worse than Bozja too with practically no downtime whatsoever.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by itachi-otsutsuki View Post
    Lmao exactly isn't it terrifying when you actually think about it? HOW do the devs spent so much time developing new mechanics for the CE's and a bloody savage tier raid. But they CAN NOT do even one ounce of innovation to the exact same horrible game loop you mentioned.
    Like who actually enjoys staring at their map and running nonstop from FATE to FATE to CE under time stress? They somehow made it even worse than Bozja too with practically no downtime whatsoever.
    I guess the japanese, because they keep making the same crap every expansion, it's gotten well boring now, i'll be trying the mobile version since it looks like a more intact experience so far, 8.0 is gonna be so ass and i can already tell the main focus will be job rework, with the exact same format for dungeons, raids and other content they've been doing the last 10 years, ZERO innovation anymore, they play it safe to keep what's left of the community happy, there's way too much foundational damage that i don't see being fixed with one expansion, 7.0 alone was the "graphics" expansion, it feels like that's all they focused on.

    Ontop of that, CBU3 feels like one team, working on multiple projects while their money maker is being abused.
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    Last edited by IvoryHawk; 06-06-2025 at 03:54 PM.

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by fulminating View Post
    I don't understand how increasing gil rewards will do anything but increase the amount people can pay for crafted gear and therefore how much people will charge for it.
    Agreed.
    Having crafted gear as a lynch pin for entry into your hardcore, while all the time your midcore really sucks, is irredeemably dumb.
    But actually it would work if you made running rouls the most Gil profitable way to spend time by far.
    More profitable than the time it takes to even set off a sub expedition.
    More profitable than maps.
    More profitable than crafting/gathering.
    etc.
    More profitable than hunts.
    Make it so doing anything other rouls is a clear gil loss.
    The only thing you could never include, is items made from stuff dropped in the high end that that gear gates.
    Remember it's all artificial, you can have the roul rewards track the MB, the way most economies measure inflation.
    Inflation can always be burned with MB tarrifs.
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    Last edited by Gurgeh; 06-07-2025 at 01:42 AM.

  4. #64
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    I've tried to get motivated to play this game but I just can't, I unsubbed recently for the first time in years to come back to OC because I really was excited for it but I play it and it's just...ugh I can't play this anymore.

    -OC Area while pretty is a nothing burger it's a lesser eureka and Bozja
    -Phantom Jobs are undercooked and safe, if you're not a tank you just die to a raid wide, all the phantom job actions favor being a tank vs any other role
    -Forked tower has a stupid lottery system AND you can't que for it so that was the final nail in the coffin for me
    -All you can do is grind grind grind to get upgrades for content you may or may not do because it's RNG! How thoughtful.
    -They brought back the Atma grind, it was ass before it's ass again people will say "you only have to do it once!" but if that's the case why even bother adding it in the first place?

    I know this is mostly a rant about OC but it's DT content and DT has just been lackluster or just too safe as always, but the biggest offender is that it's boring. I didn't have high hopes resubbing but I'm done. Gonna play other games and wait to see the 8.0 dumpster fire LLs where they keep gutting more jobs with this atrocious content cycle. We're paying to wait for content and by the time it comes out by hour 2 you've seen it all, I even took a break from savage this raid tier as I just didn't have the motivation to play this game and it turns out I still don't so I'm not gonna pretend that I can muster the energy to waste on this game that has less content then F2P Gacha Games.
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  5. #65
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    PvP barely pops in evenings and it's the same 15 players over and over. I think I'm done until 8.0
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  6. #66
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    Meh

    My engagement with this game has always been cyclical; I'll be intensely involved for months at a time, followed by a month-long break before returning. However, my desire to log in has significantly waned since the introduction of the relic crafting weapon. There was something about that entire system that just extinguished my enthusiasm for the game.

    The rampant botting has also become a major deterrent. On my server, they are ubiquitous. The housing ward where both my personal and Free Company houses are located is dominated by bot-operated farming houses with sequentially numbered names. For instance, a player named "Neo One" perpetually sits in front of the Maelstrom Grand Company, endlessly bot-farming dungeons. Periodically, "Neo Two" will appear, collect items from them, and vanish.

    This entire expansion has been a profound disappointment. After the last one, I resolved that if the upcoming "Dawntrail" expansion also proves to be a letdown, I will be canceling my long-standing subscription.
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  7. #67
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    Fatch Leknaat
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    Paladin Lv 100
    unsubbed for the second time since DT launch but i think it's gonna be the last time. i gave that game as much love as i could for years and years but since EW i just can't anymore, the game has become so bland and stale. i can't bring myself to connect to do dailies, even capping tomestones has been a chore for the past few months.

    i really hate to be locked behind dailies and weeklies, having nothing of value to work toward. seeing so much gamedesign flaws (from substats, to gearing, to content like dungeons/cosmic/chaotic/OC). i remember when i started back in ARR, i was in awe about everything in the game but now i just feel like players are only wallets, SE doesn't give 2 sh*ts about us and the only thing that matters are : "hey look the goodies for 1h30 in our 2h long LL, oh look all these mogstation new items every months".

    let's not talk the graphical update that is so poorly optimized, my rig can run games like ghost of tsushima in max settings with a stable 300 fps but struggles to have a stable 60 fps on FF14 in pvp or s9 : for real ?

    when you know that CBU is composed of 350 devs and a game released recently by 30 devs have less flaws in it (even if not an MMO), i know that i can't expect anything from SE anymore.

    maybe it's not the game, maybe it's just me who have became too old for this but that wouldn't explain why i have more fun in some other games.
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    Last edited by Fatch38; 06-07-2025 at 11:42 PM.

  8. #68
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    Hallarem Aurealis
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Log into handle submarines, log in to RP, log out. OC was fun for like one day, until I realized it was a hamster treadmill with 0 innovation, the usual SE shindig of flash and no substance. Not only was it a glorified faterunner again, but they ruined the market by inserting old rewards from old content, because they were too LAZY to design new rewards.
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  9. #69
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    Mayu Amakura
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCa View Post
    PvP barely pops in evenings and it's the same 15 players over and over. I think I'm done until 8.0
    Honestly, this is the best decision. I have achieved crystal and top 300 two times. Played one game just to get rewards at the end of season. I am officially done with this torture mode. Cannot express how many hours, days and battles I had to commit to reach desired ranks or get these weapons.

    Very awful, toxic environment that fuels only rage because you see 10-20 same people over and over again and you pray that you get the better teammates otherwise its another loss. Let's not talk about naming and shaming of everyone.

    The balance of some classes and how square deals with it, is nonsense.

    I only don't cancel my sub because of submarines, houses and having that one friend with whom I spend time. Otherwise I'd be long gone.
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    Last edited by MayuAmakura; 06-11-2025 at 09:25 AM.

  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by AristocraticCorgi View Post
    I posted this on another thread that asks "what keeps you playing FF?".



    I have been playing this game since 2015.

    Last expansion was a terrible disappointment.

    And while I used to do savage raiding in the past and could get into it again, it's not something I really care about nowadays.

    What always kept me playing was the MSQ and the writing behind it, even if it was imperfect.

    There are simply no excuses to be made for DT, in terms of the MSQ is just a sloppy mess and the writers should be embarrassed by it.

    And you? Will you remain or is it time for you to say goodbye as well?
    Best reason to cancel your sub is to realize that YOU ARE NOT PAYING FOR FF14. You're paying for CBU3 to make FF9 remake (which you then still have to pay full price for).
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