So you acknowledge atma farm was awful but do it again 12 sec later?

[Asako]

You need 3 of each color (so 3x6=18) and then you never have to do it again.
After it comes tomes farm, I don't know why you comlain?

They complain because they have to actually play the game for more than 30 minutes before they get something. I just wish it needed 3 of each for every weapon, not just a one of. The content is dead now that I have got my atmas. Drop rate is 15-25% in CE. If that isn't high enough then I don't know what is. Had 27 atmas before getting the 100 CE challenge. FC members had roughly the same luck.

[Valence]

They complain because they have to actually play the game for more than 30 minutes before they get something. I just wish it needed 3 of each for every weapon, not just a one of. The content is dead now that I have got my atmas. Drop rate is 15-25% in CE. If that isn't high enough then I don't know what is. Had 27 atmas before getting the 100 CE challenge. FC members had roughly the same luck.

You still have over 30k tomes to farm, what are you complaining about? Pick up your lane, either people get mad when they have to play the game for more than 30min, or either you're done after the first relic, but you can't have both.

[Aigle]

I second that , RNG is low effort and lame...
I finished my weapon yesterday, some people that have played as much if not more than me are still halfway.

I wish I was halfway. Zero.

This grind ceased to be fun long ago already. And I don't have the time to dedicate to just sitting in game and doing this for hours on end every day. I have a choice to make 'tomestones or this crap grind'

[Doomed_Raven]

RNG doesn't reward hard work or dedication, it mostly punishes and then I imagine makes people turn the game off after a while (as was the case with me doing a 2nd ARR relic weapon just recently)

Hopefully they re-balance this new content. I read ARR relics at the atma stage did take most people over a month to get one atma, but that did improve a lot after.

[Sacae]

The difference between this and the ARR atma grind was that, in ARR, Fates were useless after reaching level cap. Gemstones didn't exist. So you were just grinding boring battle content and getting nothing when the atma didn't drop.

With DT, you're getting either gemstones from fates in DT zones, or silver pieces and phantom job exp if grinding in OC. You're never wasting time, there is always some kind of reward for doing the content. It makes a huge difference.

[Darkstride]

I'm just disappointed that they couldn't be more creative than just reverting to Atma. The drop rates don't bother me that much because it's a 1 time step and it's not meant to be finished in 1 day. However, it just feels lazy. We have an entire new zone and this was the relic quest.

I do think Endwalker was way too basic and so many people complained that this is apparently what we get in return. I can't say I'm surprised though, since Shadowbringers also also had Atma in disguise. I can only hope that future steps will be a little more engaging or have more variety.

[AnotherPerson]

I feel like the relic quest could have been much better if they scaled it instead of being 20% drop chance for 1 atma and needing 6 different variants... you only need 1 type of atma, every CE drops 1 atma (100% guaranteed) to 2 atmas (20% chance), but increased the number of atmas required to say 50 - 75. Fates can drop atmas at a 20% rate, but after completing your first relic, you can buy atmas from the silver coin shop at 200 silvers each or something. It could be a grind, but it's at least rewarding and there's a set time expectation to get everything you want instead of constantly being RNG.


Personally, I also think CE-only soul shards (Berserker, Ranger, Oracle) should be obtainable in the shop after completing the specific CE that drops it instead of being only RNG reliant, except it cost more (Maybe 2000 to 3000 silver coins as opposed to the store-bought-only soul shards). That way, if you're just that unlucky on drop rates, you can still obtain soul shards through other means instead of waiting indefinitely for a class you want to play and level but can't and have no idea when you'll ever unlock it.

[YumieYumiki]

No type of grinding, be it rng based or not, is ever enjoyable. You people are severely deluded.

[Kandraxx]

Ugh no man. Eureka wasn't the 'best' content or some form of super noble club. People play(ed) nice because they want the mount and know that they will have to depend on probably the same people later on, that's all. Just passive aggressive nice guy stuff. If the Ozma mount was obtainable fully solo then it would be the same dead silent anti social place as the rest of this game.

[Wolwosh]

My complaint is that if you do it together(which I did) one can be done day 1 and the other still needs atma's after 7 days because rng is screwing them in the ass.