Occult Crescent is great but the relic grind is the worst of both worlds.

[Nighthawky2010]

I totally agree with the OP.

For me: Grinding should have a PURPOSE, PLAN, & PRODUCTIVITY.

PURPOSE here is to obtain a relic weapon.
PLAN is to get 18 atmas for the relic weapon & then spend 1,500 tomestones to upgrade it
PRODUCTIVITY is to get this step, since it is the 1st step, in a timely manner. Players, especially when they're doing the FATES outside of the OC, shouldn't have to be in a zone for 6 hours just to get 0 to 1 atmas. That's stupid & awful. Players, like myself, want to obtain their relic weapons in a timely fashion & move on with life.

[Kuroka]

Even worse is the relic is weaker then tome, again useless, not even bonus for inside the zone...

[Nighthawky2010]

Why does SE always seem to swing from 1 extreme to another extreme. XD

Too much grind? Have it at EW. Not enough grind? Have it back to ARR/HW.

I remember the resistance weapon in ShB is fine not as bad as ARR/HW, and not a hand out like EW

I totally agree, especially since this is the 1st step of Phantom Relics. I've been playing since ARR & the only relic weapons I obtained were in EW. There should be a happy medium, especially with the 1st step for this relic weapon. I don't mind grinding, but it has to produce results. Players grinding FATES in a zone for 6 hours to get 0 to 1 atma is not productive because of the damn RNG being so low.

[Interitum]

I totally agree with the OP.

For me: Grinding should have a PURPOSE, PLAN, & PRODUCTIVITY.

PURPOSE here is to obtain a relic weapon.
PLAN is to get 18 atmas for the relic weapon & then spend 1,500 tomestones to upgrade it
PRODUCTIVITY is to get this step, since it is the 1st step, in a timely manner. Players, especially when they're doing the FATES outside of the OC, shouldn't have to be in a zone for 6 hours just to get 0 to 1 atmas. That's stupid & awful. Players, like myself, want to obtain their relic weapons in a timely fashion & move on with life.

It’s not 1500 Tomestones to upgrade it, that’s to get another relic. The upgrade will most likely be another grind but it won’t be out until the next patch.

[Nighthawky2010]

LOL...you're illustration is so true..LOL

[Arwing]

Eureka is far better for relic creation because whatever you're grinding for, you always get what you need, every single fight counts. Back in Stormblood, Square was still kissing up to us to rebuild FFXIV's reputation after the 1.0 disaster, but now that they've beaten World of Warcraft, and squandered that lead in every possible way, probably falling back to second place at this point, they no longer feel generous or apologetic. The current grind feels sadistic, masochistic, and like the worst kind of waste of your time and money.


I’m getting by though at this point, switching between fate grinding and the OC. Got two more demiatmas doing fates today (my first ever from fates).

[Arwing]

Yup! I still feel that way! Even though I've mixed up things and gotten some results, I'm still sour on the step.

[Arwing]

[Arwing]

By the way, you need THREE ores per relic. Your first relic is NOT COMPED! Rumors are totally wrong!

[Miguel85NYC]

I enjoyed the grind.. people would rather have stuff handed to them instead of actually working for it.. this is why the state of the game is trash