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  1. #21
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    Ephremjlm's Avatar
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    Ephremjlm Molina
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    Some of us are meant to play football, and some of us are meant to play video games. If you can't do jumping puzzles something tells me you can't do savage or extremes either, but should you get the rewards, or should SE dumb down the content (anymore than they already have tbh) to make it more accessible? Definitely not. I empathize with you, but we all have our strengths and weaknesses and at the end of the day this is a game with a sub so making it unfun for most people so a few can get a fake congrats reward makes no logical sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cutestfox View Post
    If you are interested, you are still able to participate in all of this content- though it becomes less of a skill challenge and more of a positioning puzzle.
    The puzzles and sightseeing logs aren't out of reach with just a bit of creativity
    Oh this is useful, I never realized this could be done, and makes me wonder if you could do a particularly long string of macros, maybe even taking the entire macro page, to just do the entire Kugane Tower for you, it'd be impractical of course, but viable...
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephremjlm View Post
    Some of us are meant to play football, and some of us are meant to play video games. If you can't do jumping puzzles something tells me you can't do savage or extremes either, but should you get the rewards, or should SE dumb down the content (anymore than they already have tbh) to make it more accessible? Definitely not. I empathize with you, but we all have our strengths and weaknesses and at the end of the day this is a game with a sub so making it unfun for most people so a few can get a fake congrats reward makes no logical sense.
    To be fair you can improve the accessibility of a game dramatically without necessarily making it easier or more steamroll-able... This is just the poor decision making that SE tries to employ, where they think every issue, regardless of what that issue might be can be resolved by lowering the ceiling of everything, and this really is not the case.

    But then I suppose a lot of this would hinge on whether you deem bad design to be intrinsic to difficulty or engagement.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 05-24-2025 at 05:54 AM.

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    Cyrus Vincere
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomed_Raven View Post
    I didn't even know Kugane had a jump puzzle, but I'm very good at the gold saucer leap of faiths. If you just want to get this completed (for progression - I'm guessing there's some vista log book stuff up on the roofs?) I'd be happy to do it as a healer and revive teleport you up there, if as Alice_Rivers said - you have Blue mage and self destruct (I'm on Chaos data center). From what others are saying this jumping puzzle is difficult.

    And don't worry about asking for help. A lot of people nowadays can be pretty thick or insensitive when it comes to disabilities and understanding them, you'll always get one such response - as you did at the top. But you also got a lot of decent replies, hopefully you'll get this puzzle sorted.
    It has two to my knowledge
    The tower, which you access at the top of the tavern area, and the inn room which you have to get on top of the rooftops and walk across the line with lanterns to access
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  5. #25
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    Buzam Aidorouge
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    Not surprised there's a few people in here trying to gatekeep a frickin' jumping puzzle of all things, I wonder how many of them even used the title or recall one existed? Do they remember this is Stormblood content and thus incredibly old to still be some kind of exclusive prestige? Did they even get it legit or did they have a buddy rez them up there yet still think they can look down at others for not having it?

    At least the clowns are in the minority and the topic has been mostly filled with sympathy and even advice (like the Blue Mage Self-Destruct method), though it's admittedly a little trickier for the log on top of the roof because line of sight is tighter.

    Try not to be discouraged OP, there's still nice people in this game, and its easy enough to block the ones who aren't.
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  6. #26
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    I have no disabilities, and these things are pretty much impossible for me since I suck at platforming. I can't imagine how it is for you.

    I've never once completed a Leap of Faith GATE. In multiple instances, I've had FC events that throw in a jump puzzle as part of the race, and I just immediately concede because I can't do them. I had one race where I was literally 2 checkpoints ahead of everyone else, but the last checkpoint required a jump puzzle, and I finished 3rd. I just don't do them anymore. But like you, I'm immensely frustrated that there is content I can never do because it's locked behind a stupid jump puzzle.
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    Last edited by Rolks; 05-24-2025 at 07:40 AM.

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolks View Post
    I have no disabilities, and these things are pretty much impossible for me since I suck at platforming. I can't imagine how it is for you.

    I've never once completed a Leap of Faith GATE. In multiple instances, I've had FC events that throw in a jump puzzle as part of the race, and I just immediately concede because I can't do them. I had one race where I was literally 2 checkpoints ahead of everyone else, but the last checkpoint required a jump puzzle, and I finished 3rd. I just don't do them anymore. But like you, I'm immensely frustrated that there is content I can never do because it's locked behind a stupid jump puzzle.
    So its a skill issue.
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  8. #28
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    Um ... yeah ... never denied that in my case ... (in fact, I believe I used the exact words "I suck at platforming") ... I was merely sympathizing with OP (since their problem isn't a skill issue but rather a physical limitation). But yeah, go ahead and still be insulting.
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    Last edited by Rolks; 05-24-2025 at 08:04 AM.

  9. #29
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    Tatanpa Nononpa
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    The fundamental problem is that FFXIV isn't built to be a platformer: The fact that your character can be floating in mid-air and yet be considered "standing" on something is proof enough. I'd also argue that there's there's something lacking in the physics model for movement and jumping.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    Did they even get it legit or did they have a buddy rez them up there yet still think they can look down at others for not having it?
    If it's a matter of being "legit," then the real question is who's gotten all 80 ARR sightseeing log entries without looking them up and without taking advantage of flying?

    Quote Originally Posted by GuildHero View Post
    I don't want to cancel my sub, but this is the kind of thing that makes me consider it. I've fixated on trying to complete that tower because I want to finish what the game offers me. But the reality is, I probably never will. That's a tough pill to swallow, especially from a game that otherwise does so much right.
    If you manage to complete every instanced duty, complete every achievement (some of which take literal years!), and all you have left is the tower in Kugane… I'd say you've conquered more of the theme park than most people even care to try.
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    I find it incredibly hard to believe you can do high end raids but not jumping puzzles

    this post feels like bait
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