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    I sympathize, as someone who is also very bad at jumping puzzles (though I have been to the top of Kugane Tower and a few other places, with the help of friends). So I don't want to this to sound insensitive, but: you're just going to have to accept that there are going to be things in this and other games that you can't do, and that doesn't mean those things are a problem that needs to be changed.
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    Some of us are meant to play football, and some of us are meant to play video games. If you can't do jumping puzzles something tells me you can't do savage or extremes either, but should you get the rewards, or should SE dumb down the content (anymore than they already have tbh) to make it more accessible? Definitely not. I empathize with you, but we all have our strengths and weaknesses and at the end of the day this is a game with a sub so making it unfun for most people so a few can get a fake congrats reward makes no logical sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephremjlm View Post
    Some of us are meant to play football, and some of us are meant to play video games. If you can't do jumping puzzles something tells me you can't do savage or extremes either, but should you get the rewards, or should SE dumb down the content (anymore than they already have tbh) to make it more accessible? Definitely not. I empathize with you, but we all have our strengths and weaknesses and at the end of the day this is a game with a sub so making it unfun for most people so a few can get a fake congrats reward makes no logical sense.
    To be fair you can improve the accessibility of a game dramatically without necessarily making it easier or more steamroll-able... This is just the poor decision making that SE tries to employ, where they think every issue, regardless of what that issue might be can be resolved by lowering the ceiling of everything, and this really is not the case.

    But then I suppose a lot of this would hinge on whether you deem bad design to be intrinsic to difficulty or engagement.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 05-24-2025 at 05:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    To be fair you can improve the accessibility of a game dramatically without necessarily making it easier or more steamroll-able... This is just the poor decision making that SE tries to employ, where they think every issue, regardless of what that issue might be can be resolved by lowering the ceiling of everything, and this really is not the case.

    But then I suppose a lot of this would hinge on whether you deem bad design to be intrinsic to difficulty or engagement.
    I don't disagree with this take but we can't even get hats for classes that came out 7 years ago, I wouldn't expect them to take the time to make some insanely technical and well thought out accessibility method that integrates fairly with the rest of the player base so a super minority and do everything. In fact ill go a step further and say thats probably one of many reasons for the ceiling decline. They think its easier to optimize down then to spend the dev hours actually developing the systems.
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    I have no disabilities, and these things are pretty much impossible for me since I suck at platforming. I can't imagine how it is for you.

    I've never once completed a Leap of Faith GATE. In multiple instances, I've had FC events that throw in a jump puzzle as part of the race, and I just immediately concede because I can't do them. I had one race where I was literally 2 checkpoints ahead of everyone else, but the last checkpoint required a jump puzzle, and I finished 3rd. I just don't do them anymore. But like you, I'm immensely frustrated that there is content I can never do because it's locked behind a stupid jump puzzle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolks View Post
    I have no disabilities, and these things are pretty much impossible for me since I suck at platforming. I can't imagine how it is for you.

    I've never once completed a Leap of Faith GATE. In multiple instances, I've had FC events that throw in a jump puzzle as part of the race, and I just immediately concede because I can't do them. I had one race where I was literally 2 checkpoints ahead of everyone else, but the last checkpoint required a jump puzzle, and I finished 3rd. I just don't do them anymore. But like you, I'm immensely frustrated that there is content I can never do because it's locked behind a stupid jump puzzle.
    So its a skill issue.
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    Um ... yeah ... never denied that in my case ... (in fact, I believe I used the exact words "I suck at platforming") ... I was merely sympathizing with OP (since their problem isn't a skill issue but rather a physical limitation). But yeah, go ahead and still be insulting.
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    Last edited by Rolks; 05-24-2025 at 08:04 AM.

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    The fundamental problem is that FFXIV isn't built to be a platformer: The fact that your character can be floating in mid-air and yet be considered "standing" on something is proof enough. I'd also argue that there's there's something lacking in the physics model for movement and jumping.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    Did they even get it legit or did they have a buddy rez them up there yet still think they can look down at others for not having it?
    If it's a matter of being "legit," then the real question is who's gotten all 80 ARR sightseeing log entries without looking them up and without taking advantage of flying?

    Quote Originally Posted by GuildHero View Post
    I don't want to cancel my sub, but this is the kind of thing that makes me consider it. I've fixated on trying to complete that tower because I want to finish what the game offers me. But the reality is, I probably never will. That's a tough pill to swallow, especially from a game that otherwise does so much right.
    If you manage to complete every instanced duty, complete every achievement (some of which take literal years!), and all you have left is the tower in Kugane… I'd say you've conquered more of the theme park than most people even care to try.
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    I find it incredibly hard to believe you can do high end raids but not jumping puzzles

    this post feels like bait
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