An offering of help for the struggling players in casual content

[Carin-Eri]

Thank you, yes, I am stubborn. I chose to prog the MSQ dungeons with NPCs and had no choice other than to be carried through the trials. It was unenjoyable. Similarly I took a crack at M1N and the idea of subjecting myself to more of that content meant I ignored the remainder.

This brings up another point. I agree with those who note that those struggling with normal content can get better at it through repetition (up to a point). However, when instanced PvE is low on the list of reasons of why you play the game in the first place, and is required to progress the MSQ, an increasing number of players are concluding that it is just not worth the bother.

My FC has for the most part returned to the game where we met.

Felt I should return to this thread, and this post in particular, as you made a great point here.

As have previously said, I don't consider myself to be any good at the game. However, was discussing this with a friend a few weeks ago, partly bemoaning how much I love the QueensKnight weapons from 'Recollection' Ex and how disappointed I was that I'd never see my favorite of the bunch (the QueensKnight Syrinxi) on 'my' back.

After quite some persuasion said friend convinced me to join them, and a team of their friends (most of whom had already cleared it), to give Recollection Ex a try. And they made it clear that there wouldn't be any criticism if/when the team wiped and they'd simply explain what I did wrong and try again.
It admittedly took us three days to get the clear, partly because I was only able to spare a few hours each try) - but we did.
And I now have a weapon I thought I'd never own.

So I guess even a poorly-performing player like me can get it right so long as the right support is there!

[Mawlzy]

I would never have bothered with the Neir raids had I not needed the boots.

So, yes, an additional motivation and willing friends will allow clears of difficult content. The issue I see is that as more and more normal content gets more challenging, it peels off an increasing sub-section of the player base.

[CidHeiral]

So I guess even a poorly-performing player like me can get it right so long as the right support is there!

Well done! If you put your mind to it and really try you can accomplish anything (with the right group of course).

[Shistar]

After quite some persuasion said friend convinced me to join them, and a team of their friends (most of whom had already cleared it), to give Recollection Ex a try. And they made it clear that there wouldn't be any criticism if/when the team wiped and they'd simply explain what I did wrong and try again.
It admittedly took us three days to get the clear, partly because I was only able to spare a few hours each try) - but we did.
And I now have a weapon I thought I'd never own.

So I guess even a poorly-performing player like me can get it right so long as the right support is there!

I would never have bothered with the Neir raids had I not needed the boots.

So, yes, an additional motivation and willing friends will allow clears of difficult content.

Thank you for proving the point of this thread! And I am really glad you got your gear, both of you!

The issue I see is that as more and more normal content gets more challenging, it peels off an increasing sub-section of the player base.

All the more reason to look for help in other players. You have already experienced and seen what a little help can do to a player's experience, so I'd take it as a sign to get out there and make some new connections!

[Mawlzy]

All the more reason to look for help in other players. You have already experienced and seen what a little help can do to a player's experience, so I'd take it as a sign to get out there and make some new connections!

Appreciate the encouragement, but after the last live letter I unsubscribed.

[Carin-Eri]

Appreciate the encouragement, but after the last live letter I unsubscribed.

A reply I really can't upvote as I really wish you weren't leaving. As have said, you've been a fantastic advocate for those of us who don't find the game easy. I'm really going to miss that.

Would actually appreciate being able to keep in touch with you somehow, to be honest.

[Carin-Eri]

Thank you for proving the point of this thread! And I am really glad you got your gear, both of you!

Appreciated! Although I really don't think I'd want to go anywhere near Extreme content with any group other than the one that I completed Recollection Ex with! I maintain, my experience of trying the more difficult content via PF was miserable and I came close to cancelling my sub after some of the comments (and a player did actually suggest I do so) I received following those attempts.

[Shistar]

Appreciated! Although I really don't think I'd want to go anywhere near Extreme content with any group other than the one that I completed Recollection Ex with!

Fair enough. You don't have to!
With that said, I met incredibly nice players by being upfront about my wants and needs when setting up a party or static, and even made some friends along the way. I'd recommend considering it when you're up for it, approaching it with an open mind and just trying your best is enough!


Since we're both in EU, if you ever see me around and need help with content, feel free to reach out to me! I definitely won't tell you to cancel your sub over a wipe lol

I maintain, my experience of trying the more difficult content via PF was miserable and I came close to cancelling my sub after some of the comments (and a player did actually suggest I do so) I received following those attempts.

You can, and should, report them for it. It's not acceptable behavior if they really were rude enough to tell you to quit playing. I'm sorry you had such a bad experience. Unfortunately, even if you're a good player, you'll still find them because you can't cure or prevent the stupidity they're afflicted with. When they think they're right, nothing can be done to convince them otherwise, and it's not worth trying either. Sometimes, you can do everything right and still get yelled at for no reason.