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    Divinemights's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastwall View Post
    Do you know purify works against draw in now? And since you arr just farming series xp, you can just do roulette everyday, And you will reach level 25 without too much trouble
    He probably didn’t realize you can pre cast Purify now to neutralize DRK drawn in or Warrior pull
    Kinda pathetic to see him still scapegoating DRK and premade and never face his own issue
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    I'm not sure I'll ever understand why people intentionally queue for a team-based game mode and then complain that people are... working together as a team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    I'm not sure I'll ever understand why people intentionally queue for a team-based game mode and then complain that people are... working together as a team.
    I don’t think it's a case of people complaining about other people working as a team, you can see in these types of threads that people who hate premades generally also complain about their own team not coordinating.

    So now we come to the bizarre part which is that premades apparently have too much coordination. I guess only a certain level of coordination is acceptable and anything above is apparently ruining the mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    I'm not sure I'll ever understand why people intentionally queue for a team-based game mode and then complain that people are... working together as a team.

    It’d sure be nice if people played as a team. hard enough to get people on useful jobs and even harder for them to not squander their kit.

    It’s funny how OP is competent enough to understand how teamwork and job specialization works, but not enough to use it themselves.

    You’re all doing the same thing in PvE. You press all your big buttons at the same time as everyone else and you dodge the yellow circles on the ground. The only difference with PvP is that they don’t line up your CDs for you and the Yellow circles look like Salted Earth.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    My problem with premades is that they're using tools that turn the system into something fundamentally unfun. I'm not expecting anything else from a non balanced mode like FL however. I don't have a problem playing with people playing in teams, nor I do have any problem teaming up to play with people in a team based game.
    What Olivia said above is pretty telling on its own, "It's like pve", and that's where my problem lies.
    It's not the premades that should be blamed, it's the devs.
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    Last edited by Valence; 05-22-2025 at 08:14 PM. Reason: n

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    Asuka Kirai
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    Frontlines is far, far too big to ever balance anything around it, to be honest.

    At least under the current design.. That being said, I will stand by that Frontline should be 8v8v8 and not 24v24v24
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    The people complaining about premades are the same ones who play ranged DPS, sit back and pew pew and BH hug thinking they're so good when really they're piggy backing off their tanks. They don't want to coordinate, they want to sit back and pew pew and feel good about themselves and they can't do that when their team and the other teams don't cooperate.

    It's a mode that they openly cater to PVE'ers in, this is by design. Both with maps and the daily bonus. They don't care about you wanting to get dubs, they care that they have enough people playing that they can use it as content for the player base, as mindless as it is. That's all zerg PVP has ever been and ever will be. Premades, no premades, it doesn't change the nature of the mode.
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    Last edited by DallsBeep; 05-23-2025 at 06:43 AM.

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    Coordination helps

    Having a bit of coordination is better than none. In fact, it makes a huge difference. I'm mostly solo in duty finder, and in some games it's easier for me to understand what the opponent teams are doing at start than my own.

    I end up having to change mindset midgame to accommodate. Stay out of the big fur ball, Southern Cross, Resolution and Phantom Dart on the enemy DRKs have saved the engagements a number of times. As unpopular as it is to some pvpers, the battle high changes allow easier comebacks even with early wipes.
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    Last edited by EmilySummerstar; 05-23-2025 at 12:29 PM.

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    Skill issue, you're new to pvp, git gud. Don't know what else to say, you're talking and complaining about things you're clueless about OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    Skill issue, you're new to pvp, git gud. Don't know what else to say, you're talking and complaining about things you're clueless about OP.
    New people don't come to forum to complain because they are still in learning phase.
    The problem with these people is that they are not new, just people who lack ability to adopt to changes and poor ability to react to interactive situation
    They only know one style and one style only.
    I also do noticed these people tends to play on range jobs and this patch is really making their frontline experience miserable because they can't no longer tap to BH and steal kill at ease
    Melee now has a hard finisher to avoid range to kill steal in this patch
    They need to adopt to new changes or just in forever perused of next scapegoat they can blame on
    Takes OP for example, he is still trying to scapegoating DRK and WAR when there is a change to Purity he is not aware of
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    Last edited by Divinemights; 05-23-2025 at 11:00 PM.

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