Thread: 8.0 job discussion

Originally Posted by Aidorouge

A "dual-role" system might be the way to go honestly, where a currently existing job toggles something to change themselves into a different one that gives them a completely different kit and traits.

Imagine Chemist for example simply being the alt-role for MCH, with all the DPS skills swapped out for healer ones, or if a WHM alt-role into DPS let them turn into a Geomancer going all-in on blasting away with wind/earth/water.

It would also allow them to break down some of the role-restrictions on gear with regards to who could use them, not only allowing for a larger number of jobs someone can play after they've geared up (like say, having your full Striking/Slaying also covers your WAR's DPS alt-role), as well as opening up new glamour potential because your BLM-tank with a shield CAN use all that heavy armor now (to say nothing of just allowing more jobs to use shield glams at all).

I should stress that this isn't some kind of talent-system where somebody can "dual-spec" like in other MMOs, but that the job's kit, traits, and required stats switches over to what would be expected of current jobs performing the same role, and you're locked into whatever role you queued for (outside of maybe certain PVP modes like it works right now). And while it can be argued that it's "just current tanking/healing/DPSing with different animations" I do wonder how many people might be more willing to consider roles they hadn't before if they could do it on a job they already liked, or how many people might pick up a job they ignored before because now it has a role they're willing to do.

I'd dig that. Would give a nice bit of flexibility.

Still would do nothing at all for the quality of each individual job, though. It'd just be a matter of having more jobs without the increasingly large grind requirement to have access to all options.

I do think plenty of people would be more interested in tanking if they didn't have to be one of three flavors of swordsman or an axe-oaf, or to level a healer beyond just SCH if they could actually get a more fun job bundled in for outside of instant-queue group content whenever they want.

Would be worthwhile, imo, even if... a ton of work... and with fewer sales beats per development hour than the typical new jobs per expansion.

If they keep with the SHB combat design mindset, I can only see them cram new abilities into burst and make some trait-upgrades, turning one ability into a new one as a dmg+visual upgrade.

*Look at the state of the healers*.... Nope, no new healer incomming XD

They are not going to add a new healer. We might get a tank, but I would not be surprised if we get only 1 new job, a ranged physical dps.

i'd rather have rework for a lot of job than a new job... (may be time for a massive rework of all the jobs...)

Originally Posted by CalvinDescoles

i'd rather have rework for a lot of job than a new job... (may be time for a massive rework of all the jobs...)

Yoshida previously said that they'd be overhauling jobs in 8.0, but based on interviews with senior staff more directly involved in the battle content, expect the reworks to be akin to modern SMN, BLM, etc.

I would like to see multispec for jobs. DPS astrologian, healer bard etc.

Would you have links to those interviews out of curiosity?

I want my MSK/COR