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  1. #21
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    EponaTBHSMH's Avatar
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    Gyalva Guillen
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    So basically OP wants Solo Savage.

    Possibly not a bad idea since Deep Dungeon is the only challenging content if we dont count the unsynced solo challenges

    I'd fw that with a different type of rewards that's not necessarily BiS gear
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  2. #22
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    If stuff like the stormblood dungeons are too complicated for SE to create trusts for and had to be dumbed down prior to that then how would they be able to handle savage mechanics.
    They are smarter than the bottom line of players already. At the very least they know where they should go once the mechanics come into play.
    Have people actively wanting to get into savage but can't for their life manage to dodge stuff, and need to be constantly rezzed in alliance and normal raids.
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  3. #23
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Flan Vongola
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    Raiden
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    So you ask for more DDR mechanics? What's this request please?
    We all know, the Trust system has changed dungeons and even some normal trials to the worse. Look at Hydealyn. The entire fight is scripted, so bots can dodge every single mechanic.

    I've managed to clear m5s and m7s with PF, I don't really see an issue. People are just as usual completely impatient.
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  4. #24
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    Gwenkatsu Furokane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    They are smarter than the bottom line of players already. At the very least they know where they should go once the mechanics come into play.
    Have people actively wanting to get into savage but can't for their life manage to dodge stuff, and need to be constantly rezzed in alliance and normal raids.
    Fun fact: The bots cheat like hell.

    A year ago I played an alt through Endwalker. Had to do Mothercrystal for the MSQ, and it would just not pop. So I thought "why not" and tried it with Duty Support. I'm notoriously bad at mechanics, so I did it as always by the simple rule "stand where everybody else stands - except when you have a mark above your head, then stand somewhere else".
    I played Ninja, so I made sure to stand next to Estinien. He's melee too, so what could go wrong?
    Big AE happens, Estinien does not move. So I think to myself "must be one of those where you run into the AE cause the room floor rotates you out of it, or whatever". So I stand next to him, AE drops, I nearly die and eat a +damage debuff - Estinien takes 0 damage and no debuff.

    So much for the NPCs being good at mechanics... or helping you to learn a fight. No, they just type IDDQD and call it a day.

    Edit: I lost the last of my 3 or 4 lives when the boss was at 70% HP. Never tried Duty Support for Trials again.
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    Last edited by Gwenkatsu; 05-19-2025 at 09:17 PM.

  5. #25
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    Arrius's Avatar
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenkatsu View Post
    Fun fact: The bots cheat like hell.

    A year ago I played an alt through Endwalker. Had to do Mothercrystal for the MSQ, and it would just not pop. So I thought "why not" and tried it with Duty Support. I'm notoriously bad at mechanics, so I did it as always by the simple rule "stand where everybody else stands - except when you have a mark above your head, then stand somewhere else".
    I played Ninja, so I made sure to stand next to Estinien. He's melee too, so what could go wrong?
    Big AE happens, Estinien does not move. So I think to myself "must be one of those where you run into the AE cause the room floor rotates you out of it, or whatever". So I stand next to him, AE drops, I nearly die and eat a +damage debuff - Estinien takes 0 damage and no debuff.

    So much for the NPCs being good at mechanics... or helping you to learn a fight. No, they just type IDDQD and call it a day.

    Edit: I lost the last of my 3 or 4 lives when the boss was at 70% HP. Never tried Duty Support for Trials again.
    Fun fact about that fight: Estinien is supposed to fail the first mechanic, and all the other comment about it. He then wises up and gets better afterwards reading the boss.
    Y'shtola also flawlessly gets the waves done because she is able to read the direction the waves are going due to her 'aether sight', so everyone follows her lead during that.

    It's not they are ignoring mechanics. The Scions are designed as people, and are also making mistakes at times and improve along the way.
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  6. #26
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amarande View Post
    The big difference is I remember PF used to be a heck of a lot more chill.

    Stormblood? Watch the MTQ or Happy vid. Toss up a PF. Join a PF if you could. Didn't get much more annoying than a wall of Duty Complete Farm if you didn't manage to set aside time to clear in what, in retrospect, was an eyeblink even then but still.

    Nowadays?
    I know many will disagree, but i feel the same... it used to be way more... relaxed? Less "its day two how dare you not having seen video xyz and using raidplan??" Like sry but i wanna clear blind? im sorry i work and cant take off 2-3 days every patch?

    And im not even start about the cheaters...


    But heaven forfend we do away with the 2-1-0 chest system because oh noes split raids. Have to hold back those super hardcore week oners even if the majority of players suffer for it ...
    Yeah thats part the reason i dont even try, being chained by that... like how hard would it be to lock it like normal raids?
    Id even say we're long past the point they should remove the weekly limits... why would i bother normal raid stuff now if i already got some full tome and whatever i wanted crafted?
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  7. #27
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    Maelys Gyoji
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    2025 :
    - Devs needs months to introduce chat bubbles that a single person managed to do for free.
    - The friendlist as more latency and is less reliable than Skype was, and skype got terminated.
    - They can't even offer reliable networking without having to use a VPN.

    There are low budget free to play games that does those things better.
    Don't ask too much from a team that can barely offer the minimum.

    Remember not to use third party stuff, you could realise how low effort this game is.
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    Last edited by Qyoon; 05-20-2025 at 05:51 AM.

  8. #28
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Here's what would frustrate me:

    Someone that looks at other humans' "script" for how to complete a task and then tries to replicate those exacts steps... aren't you just imitating a robot yourself?
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  9. #29
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    I mean, if rando-poster #999999 says the game is dying, well I guess that just must be so.
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  10. 05-20-2025 08:13 AM

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    Keiho Fukiku
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    It'll be really funny when they release bots for savage tier so people can 'solo' the content and have nobody to blame but themselves when they can't clear. I'm all for it.
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