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  1. #31
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    And for those who will say : do both.
    Nope. What the point of having a shiny new DPS rotation if, in the end, we won't use it because the healing requirement has gone up and don't leave us the time to realy use it.
    Soloing MSQ, Fate farming, casual content that by design will require less healing than harder content, healing downtime that will inevitably be there to allow for recovery periods unless you want to force absolute perfect play in healing, when average ilvl inevitably goes up during a tier.

    Square promised "high healing uptime" since Shadowbringers and haven't delivered. We will always have time to DPS on healer in this game.

    There will never be a moment in this games design that will result in having such high healing uptime that would justify a single nuke and dot kit. We absolutely need more to heal than now, but we will also need extra attacks for the inevitable healing downtime. Even if there was such high healing uptime, an extra DPS spell would still make MSQ less of a slog on healer.
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  2. #32
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    Lorika's Avatar
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    Kaeline Artelus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    We used to have more intense healing and a dps rotation on healers. SE just removed all that. Healer wasnt even the role that needed to be bribed with mounts to get played back then.
    Yeah, i know, i remember the ton of DoT that SCH had in the past (when it was still really tied to what used to be a job called SMN)

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDustyOne View Post
    Soloing MSQ, Fate farming, casual content that by design will require less healing than harder content,.
    *think hard*... Nope, sorry, i don't recall any solo content that can't done while sleeping with an actual healer.
    And for Fate.... Seriously.... What the point to use any others job than a tank for doing them right now?
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    Last edited by Lorika; 05-16-2025 at 03:13 PM.

  3. #33
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    Maelys Gyoji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    I think people realized that nothing at all will change the developer's approach to this game. You either accept it for how it is or move on.
    Yup, they just don't care and do their thing, when SQE wants to work on a class they actually do it.
    For exemple, for better or for worse, they made modification on BLM for 7.2.
    Them doing nothing for healers proves they just don't want to because, to them, it's fine as it is.
    The whole "listening to the community feedback" is a lie and people thinking the opposit are just on copium.
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  4. #34
    Player Gwenkatsu's Avatar
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    Gwenkatsu Furokane
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    Quote Originally Posted by CVXIV View Post
    It was always kind of interesting reading posts from people that mention barely needing to heal because in my personal experience I get paired up with people that get hit or die constantly so I need to keep healing and reviving
    And I thought I was the only one. Fabled DDs like the frost mage, the ranged ninja, or the melee red mage that make every mob group live forever. Massively undergeared tanks doing the oh so cool W2W pulls they saw in some Youtube video, never user mitigation, and quench every little bit of healing out of me. I once had a tank in a level 50 roulette who was wearing glamours. Not glamoured equip, they were equipped with level 1 stat-less glamour items. And so on.

    Sometimes I wonder what game those "everything so easy, healing not required" guys are referring to - can't be the same FF14 that I'm playing.
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  5. #35
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenkatsu View Post
    Not glamoured equip, they were equipped with level 1 stat-less glamour items.
    Those people are quite literally griefing and should be kicked from the party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  6. #36
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    Eleasaid Seraqa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qyoon View Post
    The whole "listening to the community feedback" is a lie and people thinking the opposit are just on copium.
    I'd still rather voice my opinions about the game, then about why voicing opinions is pointless. The meta discussions about when and what feedback is useful, is one of the least productive things on the forums.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by aiqa View Post
    I'd still rather voice my opinions about the game, then about why voicing opinions is pointless. The meta discussions about when and what feedback is useful, is one of the least productive things on the forums.
    You can give your opinion, forum is made for that.
    But don't feel like sqe reads or care about it.
    It's just here to vent.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenkatsu View Post
    And I thought I was the only one. Fabled DDs like the frost mage, the ranged ninja, or the melee red mage that make every mob group live forever. Massively undergeared tanks doing the oh so cool W2W pulls they saw in some Youtube video, never user mitigation, and quench every little bit of healing out of me. I once had a tank in a level 50 roulette who was wearing glamours. Not glamoured equip, they were equipped with level 1 stat-less glamour items. And so on.

    Sometimes I wonder what game those "everything so easy, healing not required" guys are referring to - can't be the same FF14 that I'm playing.
    What you are talking are the infamous Duty Roulette Stories.... And, yeah, it can be an hell XD.
    But if you have an FC or a good static party, you are mostly here just to fill the prerequisite to enter a Dungeon/Trial/Raid asked by the game.
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  9. #39
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Please stop crapping up the forums, and use the already existing megathread for this.

    If the mega thread is "too dense", you're admitting that it isn't the issue you're interested in, your interest is in blasting *your* opinion out there.

    The excuse of not wanting to sort through the megathead is garbage. What's your plan when the next egotist behind you decides your own thread isn't doing the job, and makes their own special unique bespoke thread?

    And the next, and the next.

    Please. Stop crapping up the forums.
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  10. #40
    Player Gwenkatsu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    What you are talking are the infamous Duty Roulette Stories.... And, yeah, it can be an hell XD.
    But if you have an FC or a good static party, you are mostly here just to fill the prerequisite to enter a Dungeon/Trial/Raid asked by the game.
    Then maybe all the people that want healing to be harder should stop playing with their FCs and good static parties, and instead go heal a couple of random roulettes The challenge is out there, they just need to look for it at the right spot!
    So maybe the solution is something along the lines of "if you want more challenge, play harder content"?
    /quickly runs away, laughing frantically/
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