Cosmic Exploration Upgrade Scaling

[TeaRenin]

I came here because I was wondering if the Energization Station was a FATE or not. Right now on Hyperion, we are close to that one popping, but with about 100 players last I checked, it seems unlikely we'll clear it if it pops soon. I think SE may have made to too Grindy to get done before OC. I'm pretty casual, but even I will be checking out OC when it drops.

Energization station & Hydrofication station are two sequential FATEs, similar to how you had two FATEs for the tunnel excavation. You'll jump from rank 12 to rank 14 after completing them.
With 100 players you'd probably be reaching 20-25% progress on the first one, depending on how many people keep going for the full 40min. That's where Gilgamesh and Balmung were hovering the other day when we got bad timing on the attempts.
You'll want to bring more than ~250 people, and I think that estimate might still be too generous unless they're all giving it their best.
Whatever they did to the requirements for completing these, they better fix it for the next planet :')

[Infindox]

I doubt even Aether will be finished by Tuesday… the pity system might help with upgrade fates, but the progress needed to even get to those stages is going to slow down majorly. I know I’ll be spending most of my time in OC, but I’ll still go to upgrade fates if I see a shout for them.

Oh yeah, I will go to the area for the fate still. I just know that literally everyone will be in OC.

[ServerCollaps]

Cosmic Exploration's progress should absolutely have been scaled to guarantee that every server that has people actively participating in it; regardless of population, will have the Moongate Hub completed before the first planet.

I'm pretty sure thats gonna happen. My server has like 20-30 people that do this content (all instances in total)and yet we keep steadily progressing and already reached rank 12 or 13 out of 17, after 5 or 6 weeks after its implementation. We also keep failing the fates, but who cares, they succeed anyway after 1 day. Every server will max out the 1st planet before the next one releases

[ACE135]

Today we were on the 3rd attempt for the "Energization Station & Hydrofication Station Preparations" FATE. I think we had about 400 people in the instances this time and the FATE was done in about 15 minutes. But the follow up FATE took us about 30 minutes with as many people in the instances. Either the follow up FATE is more "difficult" or the first FATE was scaled down because it was the 3rd attempt, and the follow up FATE was scaled back to normal.

[Kuroka]

That was what broke our neck the other day as well... it sucks, there should be SOME checks in the background and scaling...

[Valence]

Today we were on the 3rd attempt for the "Energization Station & Hydrofication Station Preparations" FATE. I think we had about 400 people in the instances this time and the FATE was done in about 15 minutes. But the follow up FATE took us about 30 minutes with as many people in the instances. Either the follow up FATE is more "difficult" or the first FATE was scaled down because it was the 3rd attempt, and the follow up FATE was scaled back to normal.

3rd attempt is always scaled down a lot yes.

[Fynlar]

If you're in a mech, you can completely solo the Mech Ops yourself, on either mech. As long as one person is in a mech, you can pass. But no matter how many people you have on ground support, you will fail if someone isn't in one.
It's a bizzare thing, because the game *wants* you to be ground support since you get the credit bonus, and the mech you just get a Big Bang ticket (or the rare mount drop) which... At this point is just for the 1000 spins achievement and nothing else.

The thing is, for being a pilot, you are given a chunk of cosmocredits (250, I think?) right away upon op success, something you can actually guarantee as a pilot. With being a ground support, you are given far less at first and have to earn the rest of your "reward" over the course of the next 20 missions you do (hopefully you remember to actually complete those missions, and are not doing anything like mission cycling or attempting any of the harder A rank ones where failure is something that might happen). The only saving grace here is that as long as you contribute anything you seem to always get the bonus afterward, even if the op fails.

The ground support "bonus" is not substantial enough to be worth going for, basically. You might as well pilot and get your cosmocredits right away. Spending lunar credits to be a pilot isn't an issue, because the ONLY thing the lunar credits are used for is wheel spins anyway, and by being a pilot you are basically exchanging your lunar credits for better wheel spins (at the exact same cost) and the ability to actually contribute to the op.

Aside from the achievement of winning 50 ops as a ground support, there's basically no reason to not be a pilot.