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    Gwenkatsu's Avatar
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    Gwenkatsu Furokane
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    Shiva
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    Dancer Lv 100
    The timer on this event is just BS.

    Imagine the real world.
    Worker: "Boss, we finished the tunnel to 98%, but now time's up".
    Boss: "Fill up the whole tunnel again, we'll start all over again tomorrow."

    It's also a bit hard to stomach that I have mammets that can run a complete Island Sanctuary - but rabbit engineers that converted the moon into a spaceship cannot build a simple tunnel building robot...
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Mochi
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Beyond the ridiculous absence of scaling, the real question I'm asking here: who in their right mind decided that failing such fates was good design in the first place? Why is there a timer? Are they actually supposed to feel engaging and fun?
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    Celestia Philotimo
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Beyond the ridiculous absence of scaling, the real question I'm asking here: who in their right mind decided that failing such fates was good design in the first place? Why is there a timer? Are they actually supposed to feel engaging and fun?
    THIS.

    "Oh gee yes, players LIVE to pour time and crazy effort into a task, to 'fail' because SE didn't scale the work to the participants (or even to number of people in-zone), do it ALL OVER AGAIN 8 hours later, PLUS get PUNISHED by being denied special tasks that are both job AND world level building! Demotivation is our candy, yep yep!" /endsarcasm

    And *that* is the problem here: they're demotivating the players who CARE enough to show up and get into the build, and do the pre-work of Red Alerts, etc. etc. to get us TO the build phase.

    I was already mad at the unfairness of it for the lower-population worlds who keep hitting this wall... and then my own larger population world had one of those "Fate Failures," and I got to experience it first-hand. When they threw one at us in the wee hours, with low population. We worked our butts off, and barely got it above 50%. Being "punished" on top of that with no Red Alerts and no Mech Ops... I had zero interest getting back into the zone for hours. In fact, it was well into the next day before I even went back there.
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    "For the world is hollow, and I have touched the sky."

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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    So today it finally happened, I did the crystal fate and besides me there was one guy in mech - afk - and it failed... not even that works out... im worried for the final few upgrades...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenkatsu View Post
    It's also a bit hard to stomach that I have mammets that can run a complete Island Sanctuary - but rabbit engineers that converted the moon into a spaceship cannot build a simple tunnel building robot...
    YOU DONT WANT EM TO BUILD ROBOTS.
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    i dare to say a single 40min long fate which makes you walking back and forth (and only that)for the entire time is a bad design to vegin with.
    i myself only joined for one fate.... part one for the tunnel. mainly because i've never been around when the others happened. at first i felt fomo but when i finally did one it was ridiculously boring.
    if we would have failed i wouldnt have participated in a second try. even if i didnt had to sleep / work in the next time window.
    and when the game was like: 'good job, part two will start in 30min'.... i logged off, i just closed the game to do something more fun.

    what do we even get from the updates anyway? a few more builduings? a new area? is there anything to do in the new area? some annoying transportation which just closes all content relevant windows (i hate that one so much).

    it feels so pointless to do those updates. we always do the same stuff on every progress stage. there is no story to prog. i dont think we got more items from the merchant?
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    Last edited by Asari5; 05-15-2025 at 11:55 AM.

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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Mochi
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    Twintania
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    Now watch them get the wrong conclusions out of this and next time they'll just force the fate to happen during peak times, learning literally nothing in the process.
    Why do they think everybody has stopped running the mechops fates as well? Riveting gameplay am I right? Surely I'm going to spamm those, they're so much fun!
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    Tiger Undie
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    Alpha
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Now watch them get the wrong conclusions out of this and next time they'll just force the fate to happen during peak times, learning literally nothing in the process.
    Why do they think everybody has stopped running the mechops fates as well? Riveting gameplay am I right? Surely I'm going to spamm those, they're so much fun!
    everyone got their cheap mount reward, so theres no point in running these anymore or do the content at all
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    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    So at about 23:00 we had our fate on shiva... and it failed... it was about 300 ppl between all the instances... this really sucks
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    Scry Kingsbird
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    Sephirot
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    So at about 23:00 we had our fate on shiva... and it failed... it was about 300 ppl between all the instances... this really sucks
    Well, we're screwed then. We could only get 70 -80 for our last upgrade.
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    Fisher Lv 100
    in the worst case you have to wait a day and thats it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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