Is the warrior of light a revenant?

[SannaR]

If we really want to take a look at Aerith's death she was ran through from behind and from what most in the medical field say a gut wound is nasty business. A lot of vital organs. Now those who could have tried to save her were instantly thrown into a fight against another version of Jenova. So she was you know bleeding out while her friends who are so emotionally charged that they get instant limit break access at the start of the fight and the regular boss music doesn't play during it that she probably only had enough strength left for final words type stuff. This is before the impromptu water burial.

I also go by the if it doesn't happen in a CS or of an older game where those could also happen in the fight screen as I want to say General Leo's death happens in the battle screen and not outside of it vs when the Emperor gets backstabbed on the floating island that it doesn't count. That is if the game doesn't also go "no really they're dead. Stop wondering if they're coming back. Yes it happened off screen." of beating you over the head with that a character is truly dead and not mostly dead where a chocolate covered pill made by some semi crazed alchemist who might have gone by the nomenclature of miracle (enter name here) at some point in the past is their only hope of recovery.

[innis31]

I understand getting stabbed where she did is a pretty quick death I just liked the theory. I also looked more into it and retract my revenant theory. I still say pheonix down is fancy smelling salts.

What about getting K.O'd somewhere with no other people like the Northern crater in ff7?

[Zero-ELEC]

It's kinda frusrating how this has literally been the rule for the entire series, and yet for basically the entire series run we see people either ignore or not know it. There's a reason we didn't just give Aerith a Phoenix Down.

Granted, it's not really an explicitly stated rule, you just have to be willing to trust the games when they do things like 'call the on-rez effect Brink of Death, therefore implying that you in fact have not died', or recognize 'White Mages hate necromancy and so logically aren't practicing it themselves'.

There's a very dramatic scene in Final Fantasy V where you play a character who hits 0 HP and keep on fighting. Hitting 0 HP in Final Fantasy XV very famously also doesn't kill you, just leaves you staggering until using a tuft of phoenix down or some kinda healing potion.

I understand getting stabbed where she did is a pretty quick death I just liked the theory. I also looked more into it and retract my revenant theory. I still say pheonix down is fancy smelling salts.

What about getting K.O'd somewhere with no other people like the Northern crater in ff7?

Normally if you get KO'd somewhere alone those tend to be game over scenarios, which, well, aren't "canon" as it were. They're fail states. And yeah, tufts of phoenix down and pinion generally are described as healing someone from being "incapacitated" rather than from death. They're just feathers with some modicum of power of a phoenix, rather than an actual "cure" for death.

[innis31]

I remember dying in 15 unless you're playing on easy and have the carbunkle revive you if you wipe witch I did.

[Cleretic]

There's a very dramatic scene in Final Fantasy V where you play a character who hits 0 HP and keep on fighting. Hitting 0 HP in Final Fantasy XV very famously also doesn't kill you, just leaves you staggering until using a tuft of phoenix down or some kinda healing potion.

That V scene is one of my favorites, it's great. And it actually covers this; once the fight's over and he collapses and dies, the party immediately cracks out every healing item and spell they've got. ...and it doesn't work, because 'dead' is not 'KO'd'.

[innis31]

What about Zenos we saw him "die" in a cutscene at the Royal gardens and that looked pretty permanent.

[Cleretic]

What about Zenos we saw him "die" in a cutscene at the Royal gardens and that looked pretty permanent.

There are two different parts of the explanation for this, and both of them are explicitly outlined in the story, because Zenos' body and soul come back through separate series of events.

Zenos' body comes back because Elidibus possesses it, and the Ascians can reanimate and repair dead bodies; the same thing happened in Endwalker with Fandaniel and Asahi's body. Zenos' body was clinically dead... but the Ascians can fix it, because unlike your resident White Mage the Ascians actually are necromancers of a stripe. This was a story thread in the Stormblood patches, if you remember.

Zenos' soul comes back because his Resonance kicked in. Just like he possessed Shinryu before, he possessed a random Ala Mhigan soldier, and went on a warpath to get his body back from the guy who took it. You might remember this as an ongoing sideplot in Shadowbringers.

[Darkstride]

The status for losing all HP is KO, not death. During the fight with Zenos you have the Spark of Hope buff, which is Dynamis fueling you to stay alive.

[Zero-ELEC]

I remember dying in 15 unless you're playing on easy and have the carbunkle revive you if you wipe witch I did.

I found it hard to die in Final Fantasy XV, as reaching 0 HP put you in a Danger state, which lets you still move around and use healing items, depleting max HP. I never really had a wipe as far as I remember, the game was fairly generous. Still, the point remains, reaching 0 HP is not exactly death.

[innis31]

I found it hard to die in Final Fantasy XV, as reaching 0 HP put you in a Danger state, which lets you still move around and use healing items, depleting max HP. I never really had a wipe as far as I remember, the game was fairly generous. Still, the point remains, reaching 0 HP is not exactly death.

Yea I went into an optional dungeon 15-20 levels to soon.