Can I Spirtbond for grade 1-3 combat materia while I'm working on a Soulglazed relic?

[Aidorouge]

Disregard this, I'm not working on ARR relics anymore.

[Supersnow845]

The time you gain from collecting a few extra materia you would lose ten times over at least not running the light step unsynced

[AmiableApkallu]

So it's not worth it then to make materia as I go?

Well, crap, because the method using gathering and crafting sounded it even more awful so I didn't want to do it. I guess I'll just have to settle for checking Universalis every so often for cheap low-grade materia instead of making it myself.

Relic weapons are supposed to be a grind. Or they were, originally. Hence all the complaints about Endwalker's relics being nothing but running roulettes for uncapped tomestones.

Imagine obtaining all the materia that you're looking for, and then running content synced, repeatedly.

[AmiableApkallu]

But did it have to be such a pain in the ass and unfun grind? I'm starting to feel like I'd be better off tossing out all my Animus and one Novus because it's not worth it to continue at this stage. Not that any of the previous steps were enjoyable I suppose, but they were at least manageable and could be done alone if needed.

Who cares whether the grind 10+ years ago was fun? We're not travelling back to that era -- and none of us who started after that era can claim "nostalgia" as a reason to care.

At this point in FFXIV's life, the only reasons to work on the ARR relics are: (1) you want them for glam, or else (2) you want to experience the nerfed grind.

[AmiableApkallu]

Fine, whatever, I guess I'll chalk it up to another piece of content I can skip from here because relics aren't as causal-friendly as I thought it would be when I started it.

At this point in FFXIV's life, ARR relics are about as casual-friendly as you can get, unless you believe that "casual" is the same as "freebie, no effort required."

If acquiring low-grade materia feels like an insurmountable barrier, then... consider that you might need to put in some minimal, modicum of effort.

[Supersnow845]

You mean getting 9 weapons to Animus and the PLD one to Novus wasn't "effort" enough? That I'm seriously supposed to gather and craft mindlessly while wearing low level combat gear for this damn materia? Because that process doesn't sound minimal or modicum, that's just masochistic.

So no, nothing about this is casual at all and now I just feel dumb for thinking it was going to be.

You are arguing that it’s effort to getting 10 seperate relics. The relics aren’t designed when they were current to get more than maybe one of them, hell most people didn’t even get one

You can’t argue getting all 10 is too much effort to not be casual. The old relics when current were designed to use all types of content

[AmiableApkallu]

You mean getting 9 weapons to Animus and the PLD one to Novus wasn't "effort" enough?

Having reminded myself of the Animus quests and Novus quests... there's no special, noteworthy effort anywhere in there -- certainly not today with unsynced runs and lv.100 jobs.

Wake up on Saturday morning, pour yourself a cup of coffee, and putz around. After enough Saturdays, you'll be done.

If that isn't "casual", then I have no idea what "casual" might be.

[Arohk]

So it's not worth it then to make materia as I go?

not at all, also you want to kill the moogle king really fast which you wont be able to do with low level gear.

You want enough burst to kill him in 20 seconds.

[AmiableApkallu]

I'm just not really a fan of gathering and crafting in general, which was why I was trying to find some sort of other viable method ...if I had to grind out the combat materia myself, I wanted to find a possibly tolerable way that involved actual combat even if it had to be synced (and if I could get Soulglaze along the way that was a bonus), but it doesn't seem realistic with the way I was asking about so now I'm stuck having to buy it, but that's not exactly engaging either, or cheap, depending on the prices on a given day.

Out of curiosity, do you have a plan for the step where:

To obtain all of the items, players need: at least 400,000 gil, 80k Company Seals, 800 Allagan Tomestone of Poetics, drops from 16 dungeons, and 8 level 50★★★ HQ crafted items.

There is a world of hurt in your future if you don't like spending gil or crafting...

[Aidorouge]

Out of curiosity, do you have a plan for the step where:

There is a world of hurt in your future if you don't like spending gil or crafting...

Well, that seals it then. I've been doing steps as they came and not spoiling myself in advance (only referring to a wiki when I wasn't sure what the step I was on wanted me to do), but if that's going to be one of the requirements I think I can safely junk the ARR relics I've built so far, and I should probably abandon doing any other relics because these things really aren't casual at all. (Even the Endwalker ones probably demand a million poetics or some other asinine number.)

It seems I've once again been skill-checked out of content part of the way and left to look for something else to do. Thanks for saving me in advance I suppose, it was better to find out now before I spent any more time on this.