Remove Shatter and Secure from the rotation.

[MisterNublet]

Can we go ahead and lock both maps away forever like Astragalos?

Getting an extreme trial in Mentor Roulette is more enjoyable than either one of these maps.

The reworks were a failure, the maps are garbage, and they're boring as hell to play.

[Absurdity]

You hate Shatter and Secure but are somehow fine with Seize, the map with probably the most nonexistent balancing?

[Mawlzy]

You hate Shatter and Secure but are somehow fine with Seize, the map with probably the most nonexistent balancing?

Balancing in what sense? That north spawn has an intrinsic disadvantage? Where's the problem? You play 1/3 your matches from N spawn.

[Mawlzy]

Can we go ahead and lock both maps away forever like Astragalos?

Getting an extreme trial in Mentor Roulette is more enjoyable than either one of these maps.

The reworks were a failure, the maps are garbage, and they're boring as hell to play.

I'd be fine with this, but since it is not going to happen I think a better solution is a faster map rotation so I login more than two days out of four.

[Router]

Please at least revert Shatter to the old design

[Miohazuki]

Can we go ahead and lock both maps away forever like Astragalos?

Getting an extreme trial in Mentor Roulette is more enjoyable than either one of these maps.

The reworks were a failure, the maps are garbage, and they're boring as hell to play.

who is forcing you to do mentor roulette ?

[Valence]

I feel like Secure is overall good and has had decent reception so I don't know about that.
Shatter has been a trainwreck as long as it's been introduced, just went downhill as we went. It was hated back then as much as it is today, we just didn't know it could get worse.
Seize has always been my favorite for the terrain layout, the rng, the capture mode and its more tactical feel than brainless onsal. Wish they'd balance the spawns though but considering how much it's overshadowed by whatever happens in the game with rng and teams being all over the place in terms of skill and whatnot, I'm not gonna cry a river if they don't.

[Mawlzy]

I feel like Secure is overall good and has had decent reception so I don't know about that.
Shatter has been a trainwreck as long as it's been introduced, just went downhill as we went. It was hated back then as much as it is today, we just didn't know it could get worse.
Seize has always been my favorite for the terrain layout, the rng, the capture mode and its more tactical feel than brainless onsal. Wish they'd balance the spawns though but considering how much it's overshadowed by whatever happens in the game with rng and teams being all over the place in terms of skill and whatnot, I'm not gonna cry a river if they don't.

A decent reception beyond novelty?

Not sure how it's doing on Aether at this point since I quit playing it, but I played 50-60 matches and don't recall more than a couple that were anything other than dreadful.

[Misutoraru]

A decent reception beyond novelty?

Not sure how it's doing on Aether at this point since I quit playing it, but I played 50-60 matches and don't recall more than a couple that were anything other than dreadful.

I Hate Secure. Never play the old version but new one take quite sometime to build up to the winning point.
Half of the time I see one team just camp at teleport at middle and slaughter other team.
The only time my alliance win are those time we have pre-made and captured beyond the 3 base. Especially when the tank know what they are doing, I never found pre-made have so much influence in winning and lose other maps

[Mawlzy]

I Hate Secure. Never play the old version but new one take quite sometime to build up to the winning point.
Half of the time I see one team just camp at teleport at middle and slaughter other team.
The only time my alliance win are those time we have pre-made and captured beyond the 3 base. Especially when the tank know what they are doing, I never found pre-made have so much influence in winning and lose other maps

Yeah, as I said, I quit playing it in frustration. It feels like the terrain and multiple objectives have the potential to produce interesting dynamics, but the towers and stack markers at mid simply irritate me, and the rest is running around in circles.