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    Sora Kagami
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    Big numbers problem....again

    So, many ppl remember the stat squish, which FFXIV team implemented because the numbers were too big. Now we have numbers even bigger than then, and it's only been 2 expansions since then.

    I think the devs should do not only the stat squish, but also the potency and level squish as well.

    Concerning the potency of skils : i don't know their formulas for calculationg damage, but holy crap, the potency numbers grow so fast for no goddamn reason every expansion. I'm not 100% sure, but there's probably a normal gcd finisher right now that would be one of the strongest skills in the game back in ARR. The potencies need to be squished alongside stats for more effectiveness.

    Levels : currently we are in Dawntrail, with a max level of 100. I really doubt that devs will go to some separate leveling system and stay at 100, like some of the popular youtubers said. I think devs should do some streamlining of MSQ in all expansions (by cutting down most of the "sidequest-y" main scenarion quests) and cut down levels. For example, make ARR 1-30, HW 30-35, SB 35-40, etc. That way 8.0 will end at 60. Combined with stat and potency squish we'll go back to HW/SB numbers.

    I understand that ppl like seeing big numbers and don't like to sit at one level for long while leveling, but if the big numbers were a problem before, they will become a problem again very soon, at the pace we going right now. I, too, like seeing 150k direct crits, but tbh it's just a matter of getting used to new number. After playing for a week after a squish we'll all probably like seeing the same direct crit font even if it's gonna be 15k instead of 150.
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    that's what happen when jobs are balanced toward a fight but I do agree that some of those numbers are insane... like my picto 733 ilvl I see 128k numbers... like I am far to be cap! but again they should rebalance the whole game because well other then memories games we don't have much like I miss affliction and buffs and debuffs.
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    A'zalie Nitsah
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    That was sure this would happen when they stated they would keep the future gear progression similar to what it was to keep the feeling of progression at the previous number scalling at EW. I don't see that much problem with another stat crush at 8.0.
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    Ulala Ula
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    I see a problem, i want larger numbers with higher levels. I will not play 8.0 AGAIN to do less damage then i did on 7.55....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    I see a problem, i want larger numbers with higher levels. I will not play 8.0 AGAIN to do less damage then i did on 7.55....
    But the numbers will be larger as you gain levels? They'd be squished across the entire level board.

    So when 8.0 releases, you'd be doing, say, 1400 damage with a crit at lvl100. As you level towards 110, this increases, to, say, 1700 crits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    that's what happen when jobs are balanced toward a fight but I do agree that some of those numbers are insane... like my picto 733 ilvl I see 128k numbers... like I am far to be cap! but again they should rebalance the whole game because well other then memories games we don't have much like I miss affliction and buffs and debuffs.
    rookie numbers, we are still one expac behind before the stat squish, i did 300k+ with Ninja in the last Eden tier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    rookie numbers, we are still one expac behind before the stat squish, i did 300k+ with Ninja in the last Eden tier.
    BIS cruiserweight is 100% hitting similar numbers to eden promise

    In 760 a crit direct mog/madeen is doing in the realm of 270-280k, and we still have an entire nother tier to go before DT is done

    If they squished promise’s numbers they will 100% squish again after DT
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    rookie numbers, we are still one expac behind before the stat squish, i did 300k+ with Ninja in the last Eden tier.
    this is not a big dick compétition lol and you said LAST tier we are still a tiers before and I aren't bis and don't plan to be I am just like what the heck are those numbers.
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