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    Quote Originally Posted by Kytrin View Post
    I would really like to see this applied to at least apartments as well. It's a wonderful idea and if they can do this with Solution 9 housing then they can absolutely do this with the apartments already in the game, and I for one would gladly upgrade my apartment to the equivalent of a penthouse with a large rooftop garden and maybe even a pool I could swim in. I would probably also move...

    Similarly, I see no reason why they can't let us build proper housing on our Island Sanctuaries... but that's a wholly different topic lol.
    So why would anyone use the other housing units, when you've made the rest obsolete?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solowing View Post
    So why would anyone use the other housing units, when you've made the rest obsolete?
    Because they’re all different. While some might prefer one type of housing to another, others like myself will use every option available to us. More options are always a good thing!

    If some people choose to give up ward housing for something like this, that means less competition in the wards for the limited amount of plots. Same if they would actually create a straight up instanced plot, or add a plot to the Island or the Moon. Some people will always prefer some options over others, while some will choose to utilize all of them.
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  3. #53
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    All that means is you successfully created a replica of housing while sidestepping for all be drawbacks to it.

    Again?I know what it is because it benefits me. When it creates jank in the housing system.Because now you have players who have to stay up to keep their plot.But then other people who don't. And the players who don't have the sums plot are bigger than those who are required to keep a sub to maintain it.


    This solution works for you guys is because you get what you want.And whatever jank is created from that you guys are really indifferent to.


    If you guys want to plot there are plots around, but you guys don't want to go to these plots.And that's your prerogative, but when there are players who have multiple accounts who decides to go to these areas to buy, the plots that players actively will avoid.Then that's on them.

    This may not be your ideal housing situation.But I don't think it's as bad as the player said, is because even the players themselves don't want to hang out in that ward or their own plot.

    But i'm sure as size is watching what world of warcraft does see how the players react to it. And if we get some traction i'm sure they'll try to do some improvements. But if player activity drops off quick, I think they're just gonna go back to business a usual
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    Last edited by Solowing; 05-21-2025 at 02:58 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    Because they’re all different. While some might prefer one type of housing to another, others like myself will use every option available to us. More options are always a good thing!

    If some people choose to give up ward housing for something like this, that means less competition in the wards for the limited amount of plots. Same if they would actually create a straight up instanced plot, or add a plot to the Island or the Moon. Some people will always prefer some options over others, while some will choose to utilize all of them.
    1. Give current house a choice to freely move to instant house

    2. Turn Apartment into instant house with outdoor funtions and expandable to M and L size house equivalent

    3. Those prefer "Neighbour" stay in the ward system, the rest can have a personal house function just as like ward house but without neighbour. Problem solved. But we all know SE wont do it. Since I bet most ward house owner will go for instant house, and SE would lose out a big chuck of income
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misutoraru View Post
    1. Give current house a choice to freely move to instant house

    2. Turn Apartment into instant house with outdoor funtions and expandable to M and L size house equivalent

    3. Those prefer "Neighbour" stay in the ward system, the rest can have a personal house function just as like ward house but without neighbour. Problem solved. But we all know SE wont do it. Since I bet most ward house owner will go for instant house, and SE would lose out a big chuck of income

    So basically two of the same systems and one with an arbitrary demolished timer one without.

    It would make.
    More sense to permanently shut off the demolition timer system in that case

    But that will mean anybody who currently has a plot is now a permanent fixture in the game. And anyone else from whenever they shut it off cannot have a "ward plot" and to some that'll be unfair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solowing View Post
    So basically two of the same systems and one with an arbitrary demolished timer one without.

    It would make.
    More sense to permanently shut off the demolition timer system in that case

    But that will mean anybody who currently has a plot is now a permanent fixture in the game. And anyone else from whenever they shut it off cannot have a "ward plot" and to some that'll be unfair.
    I have a plot in the Mist until ShB, I log off in my plot everyday and I have only see anthoer players less than 5 times, we never talk to each other.
    ward plot proven to be a terrible idea, there will never be enough for the demand unless someone willing to give up the convenience and migrate to low pop servers
    I bet most would rather go for instant housing than no ward plot or keep jumping back and forth between homeworld and other server just to play with friends/FC and access their retainer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misutoraru View Post
    I have a plot in the Mist until ShB, I log off in my plot everyday and I have only see anthoer players less than 5 times, we never talk to each other.
    ward plot proven to be a terrible idea, there will never be enough for the demand unless someone willing to give up the convenience and migrate to low pop servers
    I bet most would rather go for instant housing than no ward plot or keep jumping back and forth between homeworld and other server just to play with friends/FC and access their retainer.
    Word plots aren't a terrible idea.I think they're great. The issue is, it needs the players to make it feel like a neighborhood. And given most wards are full on primal but it's rare to find players there compared to a major city hub. Because the city's act as a social hubs

    But if you won't square to change how they approach the system, unsubscribe.

    If players avoided the housing system while complaining about it it would give Square pause. But that's not what's happening.Players are complaining about it, While keeping your subscriptions active to not lose it. I myself have been here for about 8 years and my sub hasn't lapsed.

    I mean they can take a break at any time if I feel like it. It just acts of you to log in once every month and a week.

    You can take a break you just log in once every month and a week. It's 3 minutes to login and all you're gotta do is walk inside and logout.

    But you guys want to take six months breaks. And not need to subscribe it all to maintain your house. But given this is the capitalist accompanying.I don't see why they would want you to. You're not liking it doesn't override the profit motive to leave it as is
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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Almar View Post
    Love this or ANY idea that stops the months/years long wait and the Gambling required to have even a small house with a yard! Read My math on this in my thread here: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...r-year-wait%21
    Do you spend any time in your island sanctuary?
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    It's weird.


    The hill you chose to die on. FFXIV housing, of all things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MakoEyes View Post
    It's weird.


    The hill you chose to die on. FFXIV housing, of all things.
    You could say that to everyone of us who maintains a subscription to keep their plot. Validating the very system they want changed.

    You could unsubscribe and lose your plot as as a way to tell S.E to change the system. You guys could mass protest by demolishing your plots on a particular day. Yall could do that as a show of solidarity. But we all know there's gonna be at least 10 bids on it an hour later. xD
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