Rewards vs pvp integrity

[ThreeBeastSmile]

(And the skilled premades on their own team never cared what "NPCs" they were playing with anyway.)

I wouldn't be so disheartened by being called an NPC, among some of those "skilled premades" it's more of a mark of prestige than you think~ especially when it's that whole group rallying to call ONE person that. Fear and/or misguided loathing does funny things to the mind!

Anyway... this phenomenon of "feeder premades", can't say I've observed it much if at all. It's usually one person tucking themselves into an obscure part of the terrain. If I notice that and they're not in my party I'll be rather direct, "/a Anyone with one <somebody> in their party? Suggest a votekick if I were you, they're afk/botting". Perhaps you mean the thuglife premades that selectively play based on who they see in their alliance (or know which fellow gangstas are on the other factions to further guide their actions)? /fakesmile Find that to be a bit more common, insular tribalism is a common thing... so it's much harder to weed out if it is proving to be a problem at times.

I digress somewhat though, however this is covering "integrity" so... eh.

[Mawlzy]

I wouldn't be so disheartened by being called an NPC, among some of those "skilled premades" it's more of a mark of prestige than you think~ especially when it's that whole group rallying to call ONE person that. Fear and/or misguided loathing does funny things to the mind!

Anyway... this phenomenon of "feeder premades", can't say I've observed it much if at all. It's usually one person tucking themselves into an obscure part of the terrain. If I notice that and they're not in my party I'll be rather direct, "/a Anyone with one <somebody> in their party? Suggest a votekick if I were you, they're afk/botting". Perhaps you mean the thuglife premades that selectively play based on who they see in their alliance (or know which fellow gangstas are on the other factions to further guide their actions)? /fakesmile Find that to be a bit more common, insular tribalism is a common thing... so it's much harder to weed out if it is proving to be a problem at times.

I digress somewhat though, however this is covering "integrity" so... eh.

Some matches only make sense if you recognize one padding/assassin premade is going after another. I'd say that's a pretty clear game integrity issue.

[ThreeBeastSmile]

Some matches only make sense if you recognize one padding/assassin premade is going after another. I'd say that's a pretty clear game integrity issue.

We're reading from the same page. If the inverted commas on integrity made that unclear I apologize, I wasn't speaking with disdain there. Was just detailing on that type of premade and that it's a more common fixture than it's been made out to be. Given that it can be driven by far more unsavoury elements (let's just say pettiness) than mere sloth, it's a more eminent thing too. Just my opinion of course.

Bit of personal trivia, but I believe I was removed from one bunker discord on the basis of questioning that behaviour. Was told, "fuck honour" and not that long after that I was no longer a member. So yeah, it's kinda a thing yannoooooow.

[Teno]

This reads like bait. Nobody but trolls who actually barely do pvp want to cut rewards for losers, especially not pvp players.

[Commander_Justitia]

This reads like bait. Nobody but trolls who actually barely do pvp want to cut rewards for losers, especially not pvp players.

Idk, I think frontline was better when there was no exp yet. Because people only joined to win and PvP, not to do their roulettes or freaking moogle event fast losing grinding sessions. You maybe don't have to go down to 0 exp or moogle tomestones, but you could reduce it, so losing isn't so attractive.
It still popped regularly, just not the other less played modes where you had to wait hours or days to get a pop, but this is solved now anyway with the daily rotation. But maybe there should be a 48 mode too?

I don't like how the discussion about rewards always shifts to old feast rewards being made available again, as if SE has no other power than to reuse assets that already existed before. It is like acknowledging that someone sees PvP as nothing more than it could be, that they only care about past rewards but not about the future game mode.

There are so many rare items in the game from 1.0 and obscure methods like quick venture and item codes from stuff that you can no longer buy. Items that were released on some datacenters in some regions but not elsewhere. Items that already exist but are not dyeable yet after more than a decade of requests, like the sealrock glam. Nobody ever talks about these anymore.

There should be an item that needs dozens of wolf collars, or even hundred for a single piece
e.g. Having a turnin for 50 wolf collar to change the seal rock glam into a dyed version.
e.g. A stand alone PvP themed armor set that needs a fckton of wolf collars - like really grindy like a hunt mount.

otherwise series crystals still have no value, once you played 1 series to 30, you can almost buy everything you really want. Besides all the reskin glam.
While I liked the upgrades to hellhound weapons, they introduced a new item that you need for it, so crystals are still in high supply...Maybe 10000-15000 crystals should let people buy 1 of those red upgrade items directly...
What about a hellhound armor that can be upgraded with subtle red effects too?

Players would be busy a whole year if they make it grindy. PvP Relic... Still a lot of untouched potential for PvP, for a crowd that is maybe done with PvE.

[Teno]

Idk, I think frontline was better when there was no exp yet. Because people only joined to win and PvP, not to do their roulettes or freaking moogle event fast losing grinding sessions. You maybe don't have to go down to 0 exp or moogle tomestones, but you could reduce it, so losing isn't so attractive.
It still popped regularly, just not the other less played modes where you had to wait hours or days to get a pop, but this is solved now anyway with the daily rotation. But maybe there should be a 48 mode too?

I don't like how the discussion about rewards always shifts to old feast rewards being made available again, as if SE has no other power than to reuse assets that already existed before. It is like acknowledging that someone sees PvP as nothing more than it could be, that they only care about past rewards but not about the future game mode.

There are so many rare items in the game from 1.0 and obscure methods like quick venture and item codes from stuff that you can no longer buy. Items that were released on some datacenters in some regions but not elsewhere. Items that already exist but are not dyeable yet after more than a decade of requests, like the sealrock glam. Nobody ever talks about these anymore.

There should be an item that needs dozens of wolf collars, or even hundred for a single piece
e.g. Having a turnin for 50 wolf collar to change the seal rock glam into a dyed version.
e.g. A stand alone PvP themed armor set that needs a fckton of wolf collars - like really grindy like a hunt mount.

otherwise series crystals still have no value, once you played 1 series to 30, you can almost buy everything you really want. Besides all the reskin glam.
While I liked the upgrades to hellhound weapons, they introduced a new item that you need for it, so crystals are still in high supply...Maybe 10000-15000 crystals should let people buy 1 of those red upgrade items directly...
What about a hellhound armor that can be upgraded with subtle red effects too?

Players would be busy a whole year if they make it grindy. PvP Relic... Still a lot of untouched potential for PvP, for a crowd that is maybe done with PvE.

It's asinine to me that almost every old pvp reward can't be obtained anymore, not even a redyed version. And the only thing they added this patch is one not so old set. Crystals and collars are piling up in my inventory too. I certainly wouldn't mind very grindy rewards in exchange for those.

[Valence]

Yeah ok but I mostly report from CC games. It's all about quickchat BM, ignore marks or silence.
But this should be equally as easy to check anyway.
So I don't know if it's GMs actually not giving two fucks about CC (especially ranked?!), or it's just an EU problem.

[Commander_Justitia]

I think they would like to care, but they are not allowed and limited in their power to check out stuff and it costs manpower - in an age where WoW already fallsback to AI GM support. Where you get banned for weeks, because some people mass reported you etc.
If PvP ranked has duty record active by default, saved on their cloud server, kept for like 48hrs online before deleted. GM's could at least check the file and determine what to do then...