Fishing Cosmic is extreme frustrating

[Calysto]

Just display what's available for the mission ? They could repurpose a copy of the release list window.
Even if you had to collect them every time you got in an instance to display each fish it would be better than nothing.

[Minali]

Each of the quests favors 1-3 fish that they work on. You have to learn their tug timers and then you can easily make use of your toolkit.
It also would be way to easy if you could simply tripl hook anything. The quests are made for being a challenge to complete your log, you are not supposed to grind all of these. Do red alerts, if you want to farm points

there also is this sheet to make fishing kinda easy

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1399559468

Thanks for the link!
I tried to figure stuff out with Triple Hook or Double Hook based on the missions you get, considering it works that way with Botanist and Miner with their respective "+1/+2" skills in their quests, but couldn't find any consistency and considering it's 700 GP each time, I got annoyed by this fairly quickly. Skills depending on the mission type *and* the fish seems a bit much to me. It's not required to follow such a specific puzzle system with the other gatherers, so it feels a bit odd in comparison. (And let's not forget the DH/TH equivalent for Botanist and Miner does not cost 700 GP, just 500, so it's not "ok, let me try thi- it failed, I might as well abort the mission" if you mess up.)

Would be nice to see some sort of adjustment that the game doesn't punish you for experimenting, if it wants to encourage you to experiment. I genuinely thought TH/DH "not working" on some missions saying you need to catch a high number of fish would be a bug. If a feature looks like a bug instead of just tricky, maybe it's worth adjusting it.

[Fruity_Snacks]

... It's not required to follow such a specific puzzle system with the other gatherers, so it feels a bit odd in comparison...

Folks (understandably) always assume that with Fisher being a DoL, that means it has to be on the same level as BTN/MIN. This has never been the case though, and the assumption usually leads to this feeling. Fisher was the original "Limited" job before limited jobs were a thing, always has been and hopefully always will be.

Would be nice to see some sort of adjustment that the game doesn't punish you for experimenting, if it wants to encourage you to experiment....

At the risk of being the white knight Ekymus commented on at the start -- this is just fishing and how it works. It's designed that you have to experiment, learn, and then share that information with others - originally in game to other people fishing, now through social media and discords. It's a community-focused job. The encouragement to experiment is the lack of provided information and the reward is the community putting it all together and coming together to 'solve' it. Outside of fishing, you really only ever see this type of gameplay with Hunts at the start of the expansion, and Eureka at launch.

So, if you aren't aware of all that (which many people aren't!) Fishing can look like it's inconsistent and buggy. Cosmic Exploration, for the most part, has been hands down some of the best fishing content added to the game ever.

(I am, though, biased)

[Minali]

Folks (understandably) always assume that with Fisher being a DoL, that means it has to be on the same level as BTN/MIN. This has never been the case though, and the assumption usually leads to this feeling. Fisher was the original "Limited" job before limited jobs were a thing, always has been and hopefully always will be.



At the risk of being the white knight Ekymus commented on at the start -- this is just fishing and how it works. It's designed that you have to experiment, learn, and then share that information with others - originally in game to other people fishing, now through social media and discords. It's a community-focused job. The encouragement to experiment is the lack of provided information and the reward is the community putting it all together and coming together to 'solve' it. Outside of fishing, you really only ever see this type of gameplay with Hunts at the start of the expansion, and Eureka at launch.

So, if you aren't aware of all that (which many people aren't!) Fishing can look like it's inconsistent and buggy. Cosmic Exploration, for the most part, has been hands down some of the best fishing content added to the game ever.

(I am, though, biased)

You know what, fair enough. I have been playing for some time and also fished a lot, and relied a bit on guides and databases for timers or so, but I never interacted with the fishing community as a whole, doing no deep dive if you excuse that pun. Of course I am aware it's not the same as the other DoL classes, but I guess I underestimated how much. I never thought of it as a communal effort like Eureka either. (I know there are guides, but there's a guide for everything.) If hardcore fishers like you (I assume) are happy with how it is atm, then it's not my place to demand different things just because I misjudged the class.

(Aside from a free GP refill between stellar missions maybe, like the crafters have at all times, but this goes for all GP using classes. )