People don’t realize how easy it is to get into raiding in this game

[VeyaAkemi]

- I do not recall a single ARR/HW fight that has problems unsynched. Some stuff can be wonky but generally mechanics tend to skip rather that stack, which is good.

Okay so I am not sure it's exactly what you are looking for, and it's only one fight, but Halicarnasus in Haukke Hard has issues due to ilvl/potency bloats, but this is mostly an issue while sync'd, she will summon an add, and you need to get the add to 1 HP as quickly as possible, after a period, she will eat the add and use an AoE based on how much HP the add had left, if you burst down her HP too quickly, she will summon the add, immediately eat it because you hit the health gate on her next mechanic and she wants to move things along, and wipe the party with a full powered AoE, so you either need to consciously hold DPS as soon as she starts summoning the add until it is targetable, which is unintuitive, or for the Tank to use LB1, which will be enough mitigation to survive the full power AoE, but unfortunately not all Tanks are aware that's even an optimal choice there, and I don't blame anyone for not knowing/remembering.

That said Haukke Hard is very unique about this, I have experienced wonkyness while Light Farming for Zodiac relics, like Shiva randomly starting phase transition at 80% HP and I do not understand what makes her do that especially because she only did that a portion of the time, but that was never a big issue, and I can always go bully Bahamut in T12 instead.

[Skyclaw726]

Go and play WoW raids, absorb the raid instance's atmosphere, the boss designs, the mechanics designs and then come back and honestly tell people that this game doesn't suck. Ulduar would be a great starting point. You obviously never played a single good game in your life and it's not other people's fault that you desperately try to live in FFXIV, nor does it change reality.

I too enjoy spending 5-10 minutes running back to the boss after a wipe caused by 7 mechanics going off at once and 1 player doesn't have DBM installed so they didn't know that the shiny marker they have never seen before in their life means to stand in front of the boss and /flirt to stop 3 of those 7 mechanics 1 of which includes randomly blue screen 20% of the raid.

[Qyoon]

Getting into raiding in this game is actually the most annoying and boring part in the game.
It's not encouraging at all for new players to get involved into the Ex / Savage, maybe even the total opposit.

I am from Chaos, so i have nothing on the PF, i mean nothing or close to nothing is done on that DC.
So i asked around and people told me to go to another DC just so you can get a group.
Well then ok, let's change DC and then go into the PF, then let's find a group that recruit "from start".
You litterally sit there for 1 to 2 hours hoping to find a group, because you did not rush the content as soon as it was out.
So you are getting punished for it and get excluded from the groups farming said content.Wich is understandable.
But making it in my opinion really annoying to get into raiding in this game, it really feels like a waste of time.
You have less opportunity to practice, leading to less experience, so less groups to join, very bad circle.

Today took me more than 2 hours to make 3-4 try on Zelenia EX for exemple, 2hr to actually play like 30 min.
The logical answer being, "well it's been out for 2 months you should have done it already"

Wich is anything but welcoming for people who wanna try and get involved into pve.
"Wanna get into pve ? Well thats too bad, come back week 1-2 in of the next tier cause this one it's too late !"

I cleared the first savage tier with a static and it was okay, but the whole PF thing makes it anything but an enjoyable experience.
I would not recommend, to the point, when i want to actually play, beside roleplaying, i just logout and go play something else than FFXIV.

PS : And i don't even wanna start talking about how this game is POORLY running on a purely technical aspect.
Theres connectivity issue leading to recommend the use of a VPN to do pve in 2025.
Having to remove all the effects because the team who designs the fights hate the one who designed the skill effects.
Flash of light similar to to flashbangs on HDR monitors...

[Misutoraru]

You litterally sit there for 1 to 2 hours hoping to find a group, because you did not rush the content as soon as it was out.
So you are getting punished for it and get excluded from the groups farming said content.Wich is understandable.
But making it in my opinion really annoying to get into raiding in this game, it really feels like a waste of time.
You have less opportunity to practice, leading to less experience, so less groups to join, very bad circle.

Today took me more than 2 hours to make 3-4 try on Zelenia EX for exemple, 2hr to actually play like 30 min.
The logical answer being, "well it's been out for 2 months you should have done it already"

I believe we had this issue since HW. Take break after Gordias Savage. Come back after few months break, try to start a EX practice PF. Took ages to fill up and people quit after few wipe. Same happened again in SB especially Eureka, then again with Bozja and Deep dungeon. Once the content became “old” hard to find a group willing to do it.

[Mawlzy]

I get the reasoning but to be fair, that "us vs them" approach has never been very constructive. Much like raiders assuming that all casuals must obviously like literally everything that's casual (including farming fates, treasure maps, gold saucer achievements until your eyes literally rot in their sockets), assuming that raiders like and play literally everything is probably a little much.

Yes, of course. I was responding to this oft-made claim that "casuals" somehow have more content than "raiders," which involves the tacit assumption that all "raiders" do is raid while "casuals" for some reason do everything from mahjong to fishing.

You're correct about the release schedule being a central problem (that is a driver behind "us-vs-them"). However, what often gets swept under the rug is the amount of engagement time that different types of content involve. Contrast the amount of time those who have cleared M1S-M8S and CAR have devoted to that content with the time of engagement generated by other content release in 7.X.

[CCheshire]

But you can solo old StB extremes unsync'd though? It's extremely easy at lvl 100.

[Skyclaw726]

But you can solo old StB extremes unsync'd though? It's extremely easy at lvl 100.

I've only tried to solo Susano'o and failed so I can't attest to the others.

[CCheshire]

I've only tried to solo Susano'o and failed so I can't attest to the others.

Susano and a few other extremes have a special case due to their mechanics.

[Misutoraru]

Tsukuyomi's Pain (Once the whole floor turns one color its GG.)


Hells' Kier (Can't get past the adds phase.)

This two you want to run with a DPS instead of tank. Need to burst down the boss before the 5 stacks fill up after meteor. The other one need to burst down the feather to stop the add spawning. I try soloing it with a tank and it make life harder. Around il720 should be okay but very tight, with those 750 gear should be easier

The Pool of Tribute this really need a teammate unfortunately. Great Hunt just…more players the easier.

Deep dungeon, exploration zone and blue mage spell are the contents I have most issues finding players. There is little to no incentive for players who already done it to go back unlike daily roulette. SE could simply put some bonus like roulette to encourage players to do some of those contents

[VeyaAkemi]

The Great Hunt (I haven't actually attempted this one, but considering it took me nearly 20 minutes of almost dying trying to do NORMAL mode solo, I can imagine the Extreme one is even more painful.)

Great Hunt is actually very easy, at least to me anyhow, it's more annoying than anything and you can easily miss the phase transition, but assuming you get it right, it's a matter of keeping beating up Rathalos until his gauge fills and he is staggered, and then just finish him off, the biggest annoyance comes from the fact his charges are really easy to get got by, especially if you are a melee, but you can sidestep the entire issue by simply coming in as MCH or BRD and stay the entire fight running away from him, otherwise the Mega-potion Role Action is far more than enough to keep you healthy(I just did a quick attempt as BRD and I only used 2 out of 10 the game provides you with), and as soon as you stagger him, switch targets immediately to his tail, as you don't get the Rathalos Scale+ unless you break off his tail, and breaking his tail will reduce his HP by a chunk and likely put him at 1 HP for you to finish him off, all that aside, it's just a matter of the length of the fight, which goes by for about or just shy of 4 mins, and Rath is infamous for having an awfully low drop rate on his mount even today, so expect to stay beating up that damn wyvern for hours for all the 50 needed runs to be able to trade for the mount, assuming you got the fight down.

This was with iLvl 740+ gear, to keep in mind.