The current state of Cosmic Exploration rewards cheaters

[Absurdity]

If you pilot mechs every chance you get, you end up with a LOT of mounts, and doing weather missions gains you a LOT of all points.

Partially this.

Botting might be an actual issue when it comes to the ranking board, but it is not responsible for the devaluing of rewards.
It's simply because of how accessible crafting/gathering has become and the sheer volume of players doing it.

You do not need good gear or extensive knowledge of crafting to farm Lunar Credits, and with everyone and their dog being able to spin the RNG wheel even the "rare" rewards become common.

[Espon]

You can't blame everything on botting when many people are in there doing this content.

The "rare" rewards really aren't all that rare when you can easily earn 4000-6000 lunar credits during the Red Alerts. Now imagine 500+ people doing the same thing (at least on Cactuar) then spending all those credits on spins... you're going to end up with a lot of rare items ending up on the Marketboard. I'm only playing casually and have gotten 6 mounts and 3 cosmosuit coffers so far.

[Gurgeh]

Hi everyone, Minor nitpick regarding the new DoH/DoL content here.

Normally these things come with a large amount of very expensive, exclusive items that cost a premium earned currency to buy. The prices of these are very high first, then crater and eventually stabilize some. Things like mounts, dyes, emotes, outfits, ect.

I went to sell a spare cosmosuit outfit I won and lo and behold the price cratered more than expected. And there was a single retainer selling TWENTY of them. And below them another selling fourteen more! After some digging around websites and talking to people, the source was found.

The issue is, this time around there are people mass farming cosmocredits and Lunar Credits using a third party tool to craft recipes automatically. It abuses the macro system to automatically calculate and perfect recipes based on gear and runs it. It auto eats for you to refresh buffs. It auto repairs with dark matter when gear drops low. Hell it auto extracts materia on soulbond.

My question is simple. How is this allowed? How is this any different from running a bot to do combat? It's still content. There are people sitting in corners of the moon at the base 24/7 just farming these crafting recipes over and over. I even saw one person hit the achievement for 500000 contribution points on Friday!

I don't have a solution for this sadly that isn't just "Make Crafting actions unusable in macros." But something really should be done.

What an effing surprise.

No, F-orget crafting for as long as the add-on experience is significantly 'nicer' than the vanilla experience.
And from there, for as long as crafted gear has anything to do with high end, F-orget high-end.
I'll do what I can with tome gear. Which hasn't been much. And hadn't been fun. Being able to use more than one job would have been nice. (job freedom isn't really all that great in this game is it. Sure it could be worse. But "buy our game! It could be worse!" isn't going to garner support for game of the year.

(I want kernel anti cheat. If its illegal in JP just don't require for connection to JP. Also I don't believe JP aren't allowed to make anticheat. Did they really try and make that marvel service game without anti cheat? Maybe, would have been a joke though on PC.)

[Daralii]

(I want kernel anti cheat. If its illegal in JP just don't require for connection to JP. Also I don't believe JP aren't allowed to make anticheat. Did they really try and make that marvel service game without anti cheat? Maybe, would have been a joke though on PC.)

If there's one company I'd trust with completely unobstructed access to the most fundamental aspects of my computer, it's one as inept with security as Square Enix.

[Jalei]

As someone that just won star contributor this morning on Alpha, I can tell you that beating "those" people is very easy if you're willing to invest the time. Just pilot mechs(not ground ops), do red alerts, and earning gold rating on weather a-3's are very effective at earning contribution points. All the bots/plugins can do currently to my knowledge is craft so regular players still have a solid chance. As for winning so many mounts, I throw them away. That's how many items I've won from gambling/piloting. The game throws them at you if you play a lot.

Adding: OP mentioned earning the 500k points. That literally takes less than 30hrs. Anyone can finish those if they really wanted to pretty fast so go get one. I have CRP/ARM finished already. Weather crafting awards like 30k+ points per hour btw. Very very speedy route to 500k.

[CCheshire]

As someone that just won star contributor this morning on Alpha, I can tell you that beating "those" people is very easy if you're willing to invest the time. Just pilot mechs(not ground ops), do red alerts, and earning gold rating on weather a-3's are very effective at earning contribution points. All the bots/plugins can do currently to my knowledge is craft so regular players still have a solid chance. As for winning so many mounts, I throw them away. That's how many items I've won from gambling/piloting. The game throws them at you if you play a lot.

Really? I checked the mount, it was around 400k on Aether that's still p good for gil in my humble exp.

[Jalei]

Yea I mean if people have time to fight the mb for it, there's still gil to make. I just don't bother but that's a me thing. I hooked up friends that aren't really into this content and stashed stuff for friends that aren't subbed tho.

[NaoSen]

Wake up call on supply vs demand, you literally have hundreds of players per world in EU and even more on NA running these at any given time.
I no-lifed this and had all my relics done in under a week, 100 lunar spins achievement etc... and I saw plenty familiar names as well as people who did it faster than me.
If they were going to be too rare then there would be forum complaints on drop rates.

You can also thank people on market being over-eager and prices falling like a stone because of aggressive undercutting. When new gear gets released you have only a few hours until the price starts dropping. Raid food at the moment could be sold for double its cost and it would still be bought but prices just flatten out at material cost.

Get in early or lose out, its how it works, I don't like it, but there's no controlling it.

[Absurdity]

This also isn't just a thing exclusive to Cosmic Exploration, but crafting/gathering in general.
The more accessible it became the less profitable it was as a result, and the removal of HQ materials basically killed gathering as a money maker.

Back in Stormblood, and even more so in Heavensward, you could make filthy amounts of gil with just crafted HQ combat gear and raid consumables. Prices stayed high simply because, while everyone needed it to raid, only few had the omni-crafter skills and gear to make it.

[ServerCollaps]

This also isn't just a thing exclusive to Cosmic Exploration, but crafting/gathering in general.
The more accessible it became the less profitable it was as a result, and the removal of HQ materials basically killed gathering as a money maker.

Back in Stormblood, and even more so in Heavensward, you could make filthy amounts of gil with just crafted HQ combat gear and raid consumables. Prices stayed high simply because, while everyone needed it to raid, only few had the omni-crafter skills and gear to make it.

nowadays the single purpose of having a crafter is being able to repair your gear and meld materia yourself. Crafting items for the sake of selling stuff became a worthless waste of time