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    Player
    Jalei's Avatar
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    Mikayla Blythe
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    Alpha
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    Alchemist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    I'm sorry but I fail to see the cheating? Macros aren't cheating, going on a website that tells you how to do macro is as cheating as watching a Hector guide to do savage.
    Lol its not the macros that are cheating. Its the use of a 3rd party tool that uses those macros for you while you afk or do whatever it is that you're doing. Why they worded their post this way idk but surely you and others aren't naive enough to think they are strictly talking macros here.
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    caffe_macchiato's Avatar
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    Macchi Ato
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Sourcy View Post
    How is this allowed?
    Because this is Final Fantasy XIV by Square Enix. There is no anti-cheat. Square Enix knows that a lot of people use cheats, and they're implicitly okay with it because they take no action to do anything about it. It's Square Enix, you can't expect much from this company.

    How is this any different from running a bot to do combat?
    That exists as well. Any piece of battle content, including savage and ultimates, can be botted via the same plugin API. Square Enix knows this and it doesn't care.

    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    I'm sorry but I fail to see the cheating? Macros aren't cheating, going on a website that tells you how to do macro is as cheating as watching a Hector guide to do savage.
    This is not about macros. This is about a well-known cheat tool that Square Enix allows which does not require any macros at all. It is one-button automation. As in, you press one button and the entirety of CE is completed for you. Or any crafts that you want. Or leveling. Or MSQ. Or the savage tier. Anything.
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rinoa_353 View Post
    It's been the same with me, like I feel SE is punishing me with horrible RNG since I won my home in LB last June


    I have crafted 5 so far and I'm halfway towards number 6 out of 22 since I'm getting the relics for both my catgirls.
    Yeah it's ridiculous, I just checked yesterday and it seems I have done 90 of those gambas (90k scrip invested into it), and the only orange thing I've gotten by now is the minion. I have the lesser rewards like the glasses, orchestrions, and even the emote, but none of those has dropped more than once so far. I got the suit and the mount and the parasol from friends that had spares. Speaking of spares, a friend of mine has done 80 gambas so far, has had the mount, the suit, everything multiples times. Sometimes 5 or 6 (like the suit).
    But I guess the idea to make them all tradable is to make the gamba pretty much irrelevant, at least for now. It's going to be interesting when the content becomes dead. Imagine you're a player catching up, or a new player trying this for the first time in 8.0 or whatever, and you have garbage luck with the rng, and everything that you'd like to have is 10-50M on the MB...
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    CCheshire's Avatar
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    Black Tea
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    Marilith
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    Arcanist Lv 30
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Yeah it's ridiculous, I just checked yesterday and it seems I have done 90 of those gambas (90k scrip invested into it), and the only orange thing I've gotten by now is the minion. I have the lesser rewards like the glasses, orchestrions, and even the emote, but none of those has dropped more than once so far. I got the suit and the mount and the parasol from friends that had spares. Speaking of spares, a friend of mine has done 80 gambas so far, has had the mount, the suit, everything multiples times. Sometimes 5 or 6 (like the suit).
    But I guess the idea to make them all tradable is to make the gamba pretty much irrelevant, at least for now. It's going to be interesting when the content becomes dead. Imagine you're a player catching up, or a new player trying this for the first time in 8.0 or whatever, and you have garbage luck with the rng, and everything that you'd like to have is 10-50M on the MB...
    TBH it's p much the latest content and players will always want to get crafting/gathering relics so it'll be fairly active for a while now. Also, it's not like CAR where it's a challenge to find any fresh groups in May 2025 so the hair and mount are 25m-40m now too.
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    Veya Akemi
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    Marilith
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    I've done 8 relics so far, spent quite a lot of time on the content overall, spent tens of thousands into gamba, and have yet to see a single orange drop on my end. I think yoshi just hates me.
    It's fine anyway, they made them tradable, but I can't believe that I seem to be the only one that keeps rolling garbage no matter what after so many attempts. So many.
    I feel you, I have almost finished my relics(working on CUL as the 11th as I speak) and I have earned barely anything from Orbitingway, only two of the spacesuit coffer, I have pretty much everything they can offer, but only because of the generosity of FC mates, who gave me everything they got doubles of, I also gave out my extra coffer to someone who wanted it.
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    Nao Sen
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    Twintania
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    Wake up call on supply vs demand, you literally have hundreds of players per world in EU and even more on NA running these at any given time.
    I no-lifed this and had all my relics done in under a week, 100 lunar spins achievement etc... and I saw plenty familiar names as well as people who did it faster than me.
    If they were going to be too rare then there would be forum complaints on drop rates.

    You can also thank people on market being over-eager and prices falling like a stone because of aggressive undercutting. When new gear gets released you have only a few hours until the price starts dropping. Raid food at the moment could be sold for double its cost and it would still be bought but prices just flatten out at material cost.

    Get in early or lose out, its how it works, I don't like it, but there's no controlling it.
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    Last edited by NaoSen; 05-02-2025 at 09:37 AM.

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    Absurdity's Avatar
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    This also isn't just a thing exclusive to Cosmic Exploration, but crafting/gathering in general.
    The more accessible it became the less profitable it was as a result, and the removal of HQ materials basically killed gathering as a money maker.

    Back in Stormblood, and even more so in Heavensward, you could make filthy amounts of gil with just crafted HQ combat gear and raid consumables. Prices stayed high simply because, while everyone needed it to raid, only few had the omni-crafter skills and gear to make it.
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    Tiger Undie
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    Alpha
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    This also isn't just a thing exclusive to Cosmic Exploration, but crafting/gathering in general.
    The more accessible it became the less profitable it was as a result, and the removal of HQ materials basically killed gathering as a money maker.

    Back in Stormblood, and even more so in Heavensward, you could make filthy amounts of gil with just crafted HQ combat gear and raid consumables. Prices stayed high simply because, while everyone needed it to raid, only few had the omni-crafter skills and gear to make it.
    nowadays the single purpose of having a crafter is being able to repair your gear and meld materia yourself. Crafting items for the sake of selling stuff became a worthless waste of time
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    Lucretia Ryusagi
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    Twintania
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Good if things become cheaper, i dont want to gamble away my time for worthless prisms.
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    Doki Waku
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 100
    For years anything that falls under "This is too hard or takes a long time" translates to "Only for people that bot and use 3rd party tools" to far too many people. Cosmic Exploration is stupid easy, just like Diadem was. It's just very grindy. I do it with streaming shows on a 2nd screen.
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