Cosmic Exploration on Dynamis needs an adjustment

[Airget]

Agreed. A world shouldn't be penalized for failing a fate.
If for some dumb reason there's technical limitations for syncing (which would be real stupid), at least let the progress carry over to the next time it's available. It's not like all the drilling that was done just disappears because it failed.

There isn't even any logic to the design of these FATEs. So you're telling me, there are NPCs that are drilling as we progress and provide them with resources yet when the time comes we have to do ALL the work. We have to drill, carry the stuff back and put it in the box? I'm sorry but I feel like whoever greenlit this content should be fired because how could they ever accept this as an acceptable way to handle this content.

You're telling me that the ability to complete these FATEs are complete RNG, on Hyperion this happened in the afternoon, on a Friday, when people are working, this isn't COVID anymore, people aren't working from home so you can't just expect 900 people to drop what they are doing to log on and do this 40 minute FATE while doing work on the side. Made worse by the fact that you PUNISH you punish players for failing a FATE even if they spent the whole 40 minutes giving it the old college try and force them to wait nearly 8hrs to try again? Where is the logic in that? There is absolutely no algorithm put in place to adjust for these FATE, I'm sorry but 200 people actively doing a FATE should always be enough to complete it with time to spare in a 40 minute period, expecting 500 people at the ready to do it within a 20 minute notice is ridiculous. Again a punishment that would not be as bad if you didn't make them wait 8hrs to try again. And again, what is even the point of the timer? So you're telling me that these "FATE" to clear the debris are on a timer because reason? When in reality if you just allowed it to be it's own progression without the poorly designed "content" then guess what when people finished the progression bar, that's when it should be compelte, adding this "FATE" bloat content as content again makes no sense because you're telling me the following:

The people drilling are doing nothing, we give them resource while they just pretend to drill and then when we get enough resources we do all the work but unlike the NPC we are on a strict timer and if we fail the bunnies won't allow us to use the Mechs and for some mysterious reason Red Alert events stop occurring. It's amazing how an electromagnetic storm or meteor shower will stop because we failed to finish this FATE like it's somehow a planned event that isn't actually a Red Alert.

It's embarrassing how bad this content is and the SE team should feel ashamed that they actually thought this was something crafters and gatherers wanted, a solo experience where there is no economy designed around the trading and making of resources between others within the world to help with progression. We make a bar fill and then when bar finally fill we hope it's not work hours so we can complete the FATE and if we fail, let's punish the people who made that bar fill by removing content from the game and make them wait for the FATE to spawn again to try again.

[TaleraRistain]

You don't get mech ops or red alerts until it's done??? That's bs! They need to change that.

And they really should have these scale with population in the instances. Not everyone even on large servers is in CE. And some have already gotten their relics and left. So it should be comfortably possible to complete with the people currently participating in CE on whatever server it pops on.

Also, while I understand the story reasons why they made Endwalker required, that locks out anyone on the newer servers who haven't finished. Like I have an alt on Mari I could use to help, but she's not done with Endwalker yet. So I think they didn't think that requirement entirely through.

[Nana_Bear]

We have two people in our RL family (of the several who play) who are trying to finish up ARR patches, even though both have been in game for a long time, and one started before I did. Two main reasons for their slow progress: they both have disabilities that can at times put a real limit on how long they can do the game in a sitting (pain, energy), or prevent them from doing it at all... and the other reason is, they want to get the full experience and do things like be omni-crafter and gatherer, do all the side quests, etc. Heh.

The rest of us who are in DT patches 100% support them playing the game how *they* want and need to play because the point of it is for them to have fun. Since neither of them can get to Sinus A. for this, the rest of us have been working to get them the glams (they're big scifi fans), the cute parasols, the dyes, etc. so they don't feel totally left out (and they'd be in there helping hard if they *could* get in the zone, but understand why not). Am so glad that stuff is tradeable!

And, 1 thing SE did get right that they learned from Firmament is to limit going to the zone to people on their home-world, because the problems they ran into when anyone from anywhere could jump in a world and do the stuff.

But this whole thing of gearing progress to high-population/high-participation, and then *punishing* worlds that don't have that by removing access to RA/MO, hurts. As does pouring your heart into doing the Fate, only to see it "fail" because not enough people. Especially when is worlds where people left friends, FC, etc. to go move there because SE begged, and now they're getting hit with multiples of this "punishment" issue. Dynamis and Chaos have both been hit with this, especially.

I really wish they'd fix the metrics on this.

[Nana_Bear]

By the way... apparently there IS *one* more thing you can get in Sinus A., but it's a helluva grind:

Get 500,000 points on ALL your "Hand AND Land" jobs here, and you can get the mount. Which turns out to be (from online images of it) a re-colored (black and purple) version of the Vac Suit mount. (If you're interested in going for this, you can see your points on each job under the "Cosmic Class Tracker" button on your tablet, to see which jobs you need points on.)

A friend was joking that "Hey, they'll be opening up new worlds, and if we get a different colored Vac Suit mount for each, maybe collecting all of them will turn into Voltron." I had to snort at that one, heh.

Back to serious stuff, yeah: the "Standings Tracker" bunny is a craptastic vague-booking little piece of... moon dust. He gives you NO idea where you stand on points for the "every other day award." There IS no other place *glares at Lodestone* that shows actual standings and numbers. They were also pretty vague on WHAT you do to increase your standing, what gives how many points toward it and what may make zero difference in it. So, people who *might* be interested grinding to try to win it, go "Hard nope. All you'll tell me is that I'm 'on the list,' and not WHERE on the list I am?"

I'm not grinding for a thing where IDK if I'm 5th on the list, or 5,479th on the list. There's no way to know if you're actually MAKING any progress on it, or if others are beating the pants off you with it.

But again, this is for some *temporary* reward (that doesn't even have the 'holograms' part yet)---you don't even get to keep the cool "light effect on character, that you can only use in this zone" past what, 2 weeks? The much bigger concern, IMO is the way they've really screwed up the Build Fates and population/participation issue.

[Thurmnmurmn]

For the standings, they start telling you when you reach the top 50%. Then it tells you what percentage you're at.
I actually am friends with someone who got one of the top rankings and he ended up getting essentially 500k points on a crafter to achieve it.

[Nana_Bear]

For the standings, they start telling you when you reach the top 50%. Then it tells you what percentage you're at.
I actually am friends with someone who got one of the top rankings and he ended up getting essentially 500k points on a crafter to achieve it.

It's weird then---because more than once, in the first five minutes of "We're in a new round of counting," the bunny told me "Congratulations you're in the top ten percent," and then 5-10 minutes later it was "We have your name on the list." That's frustrating to me: I went from "here's an actual ballpark, and you have a shot" to "well, you're in there somewhere," and in a super-short span of time, a little after 5 AM in the morning (EDT)? Make it make sense, SE!

Also TY for the reply! I have one craft at 500k, and my second is closing in on 150k (the rest are all lower, but I do have all the craft jobs at 9 for the tool)... so yeah, I've been grinding hard on this stuff. It's just the vagueness of the bunny reply, and what we need to DO, drives me batty, sigh.

[Infindox]

By the way... apparently there IS *one* more thing you can get in Sinus A., but it's a helluva grind:

Get 500,000 points on ALL your "Hand AND Land" jobs here, and you can get the mount. Which turns out to be (from online images of it) a re-colored (black and purple) version of the Vac Suit mount. (If you're interested in going for this, you can see your points on each job under the "Cosmic Class Tracker" button on your tablet, to see which jobs you need points on.)

A friend was joking that "Hey, they'll be opening up new worlds, and if we get a different colored Vac Suit mount for each, maybe collecting all of them will turn into Voltron." I had to snort at that one, heh.

Back to serious stuff, yeah: the "Standings Tracker" bunny is a craptastic vague-booking little piece of... moon dust. He gives you NO idea where you stand on points for the "every other day award." There IS no other place *glares at Lodestone* that shows actual standings and numbers. They were also pretty vague on WHAT you do to increase your standing, what gives how many points toward it and what may make zero difference in it. So, people who *might* be interested grinding to try to win it, go "Hard nope. All you'll tell me is that I'm 'on the list,' and not WHERE on the list I am?"

I'm not grinding for a thing where IDK if I'm 5th on the list, or 5,479th on the list. There's no way to know if you're actually MAKING any progress on it, or if others are beating the pants off you with it.

But again, this is for some *temporary* reward (that doesn't even have the 'holograms' part yet)---you don't even get to keep the cool "light effect on character, that you can only use in this zone" past what, 2 weeks? The much bigger concern, IMO is the way they've really screwed up the Build Fates and population/participation issue.

I'm almost at 500k all and never once got the hologram/effect. It's dependent on if you're on a populated server or not.
But it really doesn't matter in the long run anyway. The titles and mount are the "brag", since you can't see the effect outside the moon. Since there's nothing achievement related to it, it's fine to ignore. Which is... A double edged sword in a way. Good that you don't actually have to get it but at that point feels pointless.