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  1. #1
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    Dironiil's Avatar
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    Dironiil Perceclat
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    Raiden
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    Red Mage Lv 100

    Cosmic Exploration Progress FATEs feel disrespectful

    I have participated in all four progress FATE on my server, and seriously: how did this go through? I am on a slightly less populated server, although not particularly empty either, and we always took 20 to 35 minutes completing them.

    I wouldn't mind spending that amount of time to progress our world to the next step... If the content was at least somewhat engaging. But this is possibly the most boring, least thought out content that I've experienced in the whole game - click on A, click on B, click on A again. Nothing else. No mini game, no crafting, no gathering, no "mechanics", not even a progression of actions as the progress bar fills.

    I honestly feel disrespected by the developers here. Is this their idea of a "fun, community driven gameplay"? There is barely any gameplay... Those progress missions could have been more like Red Alerts, asking everybody to fill different bars with different crafters and gatherers. Or they could have been more like Mech Ops, giving us specific tools to tackle different problems - instead, we just got this mind numbing absence of gameplay...

    I really, sincerely hope that they'll make the progress more engaging in the next world, or that at the very least, they'll make the missions a lot shorter...
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  2. #2
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    Enceladus Orbilander
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    Scholar Lv 58
    Yeah.
    I saw the live letter.
    Haven't bothered unlocking cosmic.
    Haven't detected any 'game-play' being talked about on youtube. Press X, and press X again to spin the wheel.
    (Didn't complete upgrading anything in Island sanctuary. It's all the same kind of 'click this click that' but nothing to solve. Nothing to design or create.)
    Just tedium to overcome/grind.
    This is all fine, but not when other content is still totally missing.

    (Furthermore people know what I think of crafting) the lack of QoL improvements that add-on users enjoy, and what mb prices have done to gatekeeping high end (while there is no engaging battle casual content either), combined with the pressure to level crafting which that creates when I just want to do crafting 'when I feel like it' which I used to 'love' when I could do it as the end, not just a means to another end. It's part of crafting and that's just baggage and tainted by high end sprint. I'll do something that makes me happy instead.

    Besides I hear the crafting does get challenging in the higher tears of cosmic. I'll just bet that's way 'smoother' with more help and less friction from the UI with add-ons.
    So I'll pass. I've given stuff too many chances, and I'm not giving it any more unless it does anything other than blow my socks off with it's marketing.

    So my sub will run out in less than a handfull of days. 2 weeks spent getting geared for Ex4. 2 days to hit boom4. Then rinse and repeat start to bloom4 for the next week and half, or logging off with out even pulling because I've got no 2nd job geared for Ex. Not really motivated because I know I'll get no rewards as I didn't for Ex1, or EX2, Ex3. Friends who resubbed (one at my persuading) they've had a bit of fun. Not a lot though. Hardly daily attendance. Thinks it's been a week without seeing them.
    Let's see what the new Bozja has to offer...

    I care about a much as SQX cares about the stalker issue.
    Meh. It's mehs all the way down.
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    Last edited by Gurgeh; 04-29-2025 at 02:57 PM.

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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    It's based on Ishgard Restoration which was the same, where everyone picks something up, carries it somewhere, then applies it. As FATEs, they are not class-specific like Red Alerts are.

    Despite the simplicity of the FATEs, it was fun just seeing so many players together building something really fast. It gave a similar feel to what happened in Shadowbringers where everyone on the First built a giant hand to climb up to fight Innocence.

    I don't think the content is fun for the most part, but having other players there is far better than Island Sanctuary, which went completely counter to the idea of a "massively" multiplayer game. The social interaction in shout has been fun.

    At least there's some little gimmicks and challenges in the steller missions too.
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Anything they include gameplay on isn't casual friendly, sorry. You'll interact with the shiny spot and like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    ...
    Despite the simplicity of the FATEs, it was fun just seeing so many players together building something really fast. It gave a similar feel to what happened in Shadowbringers where everyone on the First built a giant hand to climb up to fight Innocence....
    And I guess that's part of the problem for me. I don't feel part of a community any more. I'm not. I've tried another FC that, this time don't patronise me about how to enjoy helping practice parties week 8, that they wouldn't dream of wasting their time on after hitting farm on hour 2 of week 0. Much more the vibe I'm after. Buuut this time... no discord engagement to speak of. So if I'm not in the game, it's like the game didn't exist. I'm still not connecting as meaningfully.

    I haven't felt part of the community since all the casual enjoyers started to leave, I turned around and found it was just me surrounded by savage raiders. Who told me to put the effort in and play savage, and find a static, if I thought there wasn't enough content, or just F off, because they need more savage content too.

    The EX4 PF I joined yesterday, abandoned without filling.
    So I queued an alliance roul.
    An ARR popped.
    So I immediately abandoned and logged off.
    It my money. It's MY TIME. And your not leaving me any options to try and get my monies worth. If they have to re-fill, then as a high end player would say, not my problem. Adapt. Penalty? Thanks, I was just leaving anyway.
    Its not like it mattered if they never replaced me. And I was tank! It's REALLY not, and we all know that's a fact.
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    Katherine Thorn
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    Cerberus
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    Anything they include gameplay on isn't casual friendly, sorry. You'll interact with the shiny spot and like it.
    I mean, if right click on object then go somewhere else isn't considered casual, I don't know what is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    It's based on Ishgard Restoration which was the same, where everyone picks something up, carries it somewhere, then applies it. As FATEs, they are not class-specific like Red Alerts are.

    Despite the simplicity of the FATEs, it was fun just seeing so many players together building something really fast. It gave a similar feel to what happened in Shadowbringers where everyone on the First built a giant hand to climb up to fight Innocence.

    I don't think the content is fun for the most part, but having other players there is far better than Island Sanctuary, which went completely counter to the idea of a "massively" multiplayer game. The social interaction in shout has been fun.
    I think there's room for both Island Sanctuary and Cosmic Exploration in FFXIV, both for players that want to engage with community and players who just want a place for themselves!
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  7. #7
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    Ulorin Ardor
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I joined one hoping i'd get a decent reward at least.
    I was just baffled by the charge/depleted rover/rover clicking stage. Then something clicked "this is really seems the best they can do"
    I'm not joining another one and on top of that the reward also was dogshit and don't say the experience is the reward..
    Its just trash
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  8. #8
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    Kristopher Greyson
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    I did the... charge the battery? Fate and it was god awful. To add Injury to insult, I'm on a low population server (Marilith) so we failed it.

    I genuinely don't get it. THIS is what took them 2.1 patches to release? This? I don't get it. Here I was thinking the upgrade fate would be a fun little victory lap to the next phase or feel like World Events in WoW and it was actually just one of the most dull uninspired tasks. Genuinely who thought this was fun? Was it supposed to be fun?

    Edited this for clarity. As I don't think (or know) if Brynhildr failed this, I transferred to Marilith because I have a FC house there.
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    Last edited by Andanie; 05-02-2025 at 07:10 AM.

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    Mikon Chozo
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    Fisher Lv 100
    atleast noone can complain that they missed out fun content due to work and real life
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    great mmo content... you need the others player to progress and you can be in a group together, but you dont play together. no interaction, nothing.
    no tradesystem for mats, no teamprojects, just old plain clicking and solo crafting.
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    Last edited by Asari5; 04-30-2025 at 12:39 AM.
    without fun jobs none of the content is fun

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