Cosmic Exploration is CASUAL content with a pinch of midcore

[s32ialx]

No, Red Alerts give absolute gobs of IV. That's how I finished my fishing pole. Managed to fit seven or eight fishing missions in and got a ton of IV XP.

I was referring to them saying just do B-class to level to max which is impossible I have leveled 4 relics already there is no IV on B-Class. and telling people to do Red Alerts which some servers will be lucky to see them at most 2-3 times a day is not acceptable for 'it's casual' cause casual people might not be able to make a single red alert

[Astronis]

I was referring to them saying just do B-class to level to max which is impossible I have leveled 4 relics already there is no IV on B-Class. and telling people to do Red Alerts which some servers will be lucky to see them at most 2-3 times a day is not acceptable for 'it's casual' cause casual people might not be able to make a single red alert

"Them" was me, and I said, "You don't have to do any of the harder A missions", which is true. There's nothing more casual than the critical missions, just have to be online at the right time. Which I assume a casual player will, at some point, manage to be. Unless we're defining "casual player" as someone who logs in 30 minutes once a week...in which case, no, they'll *still* manage to catch a red alert at some point.

[s32ialx]

"Them" was me, and I said, "You don't have to do any of the harder A missions", which is true. There's nothing more casual than the critical missions, just have to be online at the right time. Which I assume a casual player will, at some point, manage to be. Unless we're defining "casual player" as someone who logs in 30 minutes once a week...in which case, no, they'll *still* manage to catch a red alert at some point.

*at some point* is not casual friendly. and unless you gold star those less harder A-class missions you will get piddly squat for points to your relic, in fact in order for me to actually even start getting points on a-class on ALC I had to 4x meld my tools even though my entire gear was penta my tools only had 1 materia on them for ALC and I would fail basically every single time, macros would fail everything would fail and I wouldn't even get enough points for bronze or silver, Gold is a if the RNG gods wish you luck on quality statuses.

[Kaurhz]

You can do a good chunk of the A-Ranks comfortably with scrip gear. Including those from A3. Doesn't require you to be fully decked out at all.

[Astronis]

*at some point* is not casual friendly.

How are you defining "casual" such that critical missions can't be part of casual play? Part of the reason I wonder is because while I am not even remotely a 'casual' player of FFXIV as a whole, I am 100% a casual crafter, having only leveled mine enough so that I didn't have to bother friends to make chocobo clothes for me anymore. Otherwise I don't touch crafters with a ten-fulm barge pole. If I ever even consider making a crafter tool through Cosmic Exploration I am going to be abusing Red Alerts like crazy. On the other hand, I have friends who are casual players of FFXIV and they aren't even bothering with the tools, just doing mech ops and Red Alerts so they can buy clothes.

You can do a good chunk of the A-Ranks comfortably with scrip gear. Including those from A3. Doesn't require you to be fully decked out at all.

I'm literally using jewelry I happened to have pentamelded well over a year ago for gathering and it's working fine to get gold on many of the A quests; I haven't bothered doing anything of the sort with my left-side gear, it's just current. Dunno how it is on crafters though.

[Kaurhz]

How are you defining "casual" such that critical missions can't be part of casual play?



I'm literally using jewelry I happened to have pentamelded well over a year ago for gathering and it's working fine to get gold on many of the A quests; I haven't bothered doing anything of the sort with my left-side gear, it's just current. Dunno how it is on crafters though.

This is literally scrip gear, and an offshoot random macro on the triple experimental recipe that awards 30 IV data logs base.


People are just jumping the gun for the most part, and then some people that haven't necessarily done it are just latching onto that. It's on the very accessible side. Players are just far too used to coming home from work on a patch day, and all the macros and resources being readily published for copying in-game, and because they aren't as widely published, people are just blowing it a bit out of proportion, tbh.

[s32ialx]

How are you defining "casual" such that critical missions can't be part of casual play? Part of the reason I wonder is because while I am not even remotely a 'casual' player of FFXIV as a whole, I am 100% a casual crafter, having only leveled mine enough so that I didn't have to bother friends to make chocobo clothes for me anymore. Otherwise I don't touch crafters with a ten-fulm barge pole. If I ever even consider making a crafter tool through Cosmic Exploration I am going to be abusing Red Alerts like crazy. On the other hand, I have friends who are casual players of FFXIV and they aren't even bothering with the tools, just doing mech ops and Red Alerts so they can buy clothes.



I'm literally using jewelry I happened to have pentamelded well over a year ago for gathering and it's working fine to get gold on many of the A quests; I haven't bothered doing anything of the sort with my left-side gear, it's just current. Dunno how it is on crafters though.

so you're making assertions about content you aren't even doing why exactly are you commenting here if you aren't even doing the content and making assumptions like i said Red alerts are maybe 3 a day if you are lucky. you can't "abuse" red alerts.

[Astronis]

so you're making assertions about content you aren't even doing why exactly are you commenting here if you aren't even doing the content and making assumptions like i said Red alerts are maybe 3 a day if you are lucky. you can't "abuse" red alerts.

I am doing the content. I have a maxed out fishing pole and am currently working on the mining pick. So, how do you define "casual"?

[Yoshihara]

try hard levels of penta melding

melding

try hard

You heard it here folks, melding materia is now considered by at least one person to be hardcore gaming
Thank you FFXIV community

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

[...]Players are just far too used to coming home from work on a patch day, and all the macros and resources being readily published for copying in-game, and because they aren't as widely published, people are just blowing it a bit out of proportion, tbh.

Furthermore, even if people can't figure out what they're supposed to do, there are literally dozen other doing the same thing in the instance. Like, ask around? The instances I've been in are generally friendly enough people regularly answer questions.

All these 'macros not working!!!' honestly brings up the question: do you (general you) even know why XYZ macro works or are you just copying homeworks?