Cosmic Exploration is CASUAL content with a pinch of midcore

[Gwenkatsu]

Having said that, I am a person who is never getting tired of pointing out how "easy" and "hard" in itself are very subjective and just because one thing is easy for one, it doesn't mean it's hard for others.

Thanks for that sentence, I already thought me to be the only person on this forum to understand this very obvious truth.

Personally I cannot help but laugh about all this threads. It's hardcore! No, it's midcore! It's softcore, shmonzcore, whatevercore. So what? When a content is too hard for a person, then it's too hard for that person - which does not mean that the content is bad. "I do not like it because <solid reason>" is a good point to make. "It's bad since it's hardcore" is a very stupid take.

[Kandraxx]

Thanks for that sentence, I already thought me to be the only person on this forum to understand this very obvious truth.

Personally I cannot help but laugh about all this threads. It's hardcore! No, it's midcore! It's softcore, shmonzcore, whatevercore. So what? When a content is too hard for a person, then it's too hard for that person - which does not mean that the content is bad. "I do not like it because <solid reason>" is a good point to make. "It's bad since it's hardcore" is a very stupid take.

Everything is plugincore so it doesn’t even matter. From botting Gil, MGP, Job levels/Trust/Island/Bozja/Eureka to cheating raid content and hacking object interactions, everythings covered. At this point the game has the credibility of a private CS server in 2001.

[Supersnow845]

When the answer to some people's troubles was "just pentameld bro, lol" in nearly every topic about the difficulty, you can't really blame some people for having the perception that Cosmic Exploration was another false bridge like Chaotic Raid was. And it's not just crafting either, people seem to take umbrage with how gathering works in the mode too because of node distance and GP replenishment. Was that also player error and not a content one?

If you and others find the content so easy than you're a hair away from calling it "brain dead" like with every other piece of content you stomp through, good on you, keep on barely lifting a finger and all that. But I don't really trust it when other players who breeze through content because of their personal skill level being just that good try to blow smoke up my ass that I can totally do it too, whether its this content or any other kind.

Being told over and over again that things are easy doesn't really inspire confidence, but rather it makes the failures that much more embarrassing.

But it is a bridge

A-2 and A-3 ranks aren’t. If you simply buy HQ current gear (or make it) and use the two meld slots you have then you can do B and A-1 Ranks easily

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

It’s also a community thing IMHO.

Many, including myself—at some point had been deconditioned into thinking that crafting being mostly ‘just find macro lol no need to think 100% HQ ez stuff’. I’ve met my fair share of folks who actually never knew the existence of some actions like the Prudents, Careful Synth, and Observe(!!) in this CE it’s a bit disconcerting. What about the 50%-60% proc rate actions? ”No way, they’re scary & cannot be macro’d!! Anything that’s not 100% is a sin!!” … yeah :shrug:

This content is both gear & knowledge check.

[GlowClam]

Aidorouge:

When the answer to some people's troubles was "just pentameld bro, lol" in nearly every topic about the difficulty, you can't really blame some people for having the perception that Cosmic Exploration was another false bridge like Chaotic Raid was. And it's not just crafting either, people seem to take umbrage with how gathering works in the mode too because of node distance and GP replenishment. Was that also player error and not a content one?

Exactly to the point. The contents are all easy to solve for me. Just inform yourself and get started! I couldn't cope with the many stumbling blocks in terms of operation. It was pure stress for me. I was constantly being led astray by the quest and user guidance, which meant that valuable seconds were lost.

My solution: After three days I gave up, annoyed. I took 10 million gil and bought a mount, companions, music rolls and clothing on the market. I make this amount in two to three weeks while playing the game. In the German forum, I explained the many errors in the new exploration system in detail and had to listen again to how easy this content is. The required skill is not a problem for me! The quirks stressed me out!

It's a shame, because I would have liked to have all the Kosmo tools and relax in my free time.

An example: There is no test synthesis for optimizing macros. The material is provided. I have to produce this and plan to fail at first. And after three attempts, the quest fails. Start a new quest? No, that's not possible. It disappears from the offer and only reappears later.

[Dakimakura]

From my experience, it seems like the best way to get ppl into crafting and gathering after the Endwalker player influx.

I've barely taken DoL/DoH jobs seriously and finding this really approachable, even before discovering macros.
The lower ranks ease you into your rotations (well they should be if you are reading your actions) and the higher ranks get more involved.
Also make sure all your role quests are done, you will need those actions from them to make it easier.

[SkankyRoe]

B-ranks for the last stages of your relics.

Class B missions don't give the Rank IV research exp needed to complete the last stages of the relics.

It’s also a community thing IMHO.

Many, including myself—at some point had been deconditioned into thinking that crafting being mostly ‘just find macro lol no need to think 100% HQ ez stuff’. I’ve met my fair share of folks who actually never knew the existence of some actions like the Prudents, Careful Synth, and Observe(!!) in this CE it’s a bit disconcerting. What about the 50%-60% proc rate actions? ”No way, they’re scary & cannot be macro’d!! Anything that’s not 100% is a sin!!” … yeah :shrug:

This is unfortunately accurate. Up until now, crafting has always warranted maximizing efficiency due to the quantity of crafts(food and pots being the big one) and also maximizing success rate due to how pricey the materials are. Specialist actions like Observe also fall to the wayside due to the three-per-week limit for swapping Specialist and the requirement of a Crafter's Delineation per action. It really isn't too different from the battle content in that regard, everyone is focused too heavily on blitzing through it all in the quickest, cheapest, least invested manner possible.

[Valence]

They are absolutely not standard, a lot of them seem built around using one or two specific skills. Maybe rank D is mostly normal but they start getting weird pretty much immediately.

I'm not saying they're hard, but if you're used to the regular content in the game you might just approach this like anything else and find yourself unable to complete some of the tasks.

It is possible for DoL, I haven't gotten into depth with those yet due to the way the relic progression works unfortunately. From what I've seen, a lot of people have legitimate issues with DoL.

Class B missions don't give the Rank IV research exp needed to complete the last stages of the relics.

Point taken, but then again, ShB and EW relics also required expert recipes for their latest stages, which were generally harder. You could bruteforce their baseline collectability with macros (and a lot of gear/melds), but even then the latest stage? Not that much when they were current.
This isn't really different, one can get bronze or silver rating more easily on a lot of A-1s, but this will sound like I'm shifting the goalposts so, point taken.

[Valence]

Thanks for that sentence, I already thought me to be the only person on this forum to understand this very obvious truth.

Personally I cannot help but laugh about all this threads. It's hardcore! No, it's midcore! It's softcore, shmonzcore, whatevercore. So what? When a content is too hard for a person, then it's too hard for that person - which does not mean that the content is bad. "I do not like it because <solid reason>" is a good point to make. "It's bad since it's hardcore" is a very stupid take.

When the answer to some people's troubles was "just pentameld bro, lol" in nearly every topic about the difficulty, you can't really blame some people for having the perception that Cosmic Exploration was another false bridge like Chaotic Raid was. And it's not just crafting either, people seem to take umbrage with how gathering works in the mode too because of node distance and GP replenishment. Was that also player error and not a content one?

If you and others find the content so easy than you're a hair away from calling it "brain dead" like with every other piece of content you stomp through, good on you, keep on barely lifting a finger and all that. But I don't really trust it when other players who breeze through content because of their personal skill level being just that good try to blow smoke up my ass that I can totally do it too, whether its this content or any other kind.

Being told over and over again that things are easy doesn't really inspire confidence, but rather it makes the failures that much more embarrassing.

The fact that I find it easy or not is irrelevant. I am saying that at least on the side of crafting up to B-ranks and some lower A-ranks, this is baseline crafting recipes like we've had since the dawn of time.
I am perfectly happy to accept that everybody has different appreciations of difficulty, as evidenced by my post history in the dungeon subforums notably. But this ain't it. People complained about the content being "hardcore", which makes zero sense for the aforementioned reason. This is an overreaction, unless people are literally saying that they find baseline crafting "hardcore", which is a little wild to read, but I'm ready to hear it. Some people find baseline pve hard and I understand why. I can totally see that people can find baseline crafting hard as well. It's the "hardcore" part I have a little more issues with.

[LilaIronman]

After reading a lot of feedback from people I really do think this community needs a reality check for a moment.

The community based group fates (MechOps and Phase Progression) are the most "casual"content there is in the game: it's all about clicking on quest items mindlessly, going back and forth between them. There is literally no skill involved in those and they're designed for everybody to get by.

I fail to see how a AFK Clicker game is any content at all though