Cosmic Exploration is CASUAL content with a pinch of midcore

[Supersnow845]

when did I say FLEEING to dynamis, and sure it's a personal concern ALL OF FOMO is a personal concern. The point is that on a more casual server you have to not feel so inadequate because you're not going to be seen a bunch of tryhards flaunting that they sweated and spent millions on millions on millions of gil just so they can skip the content that you can't skip cause you're not as lucky as them or don't have the time invest me that they can put in.

I don’t know how to tell you that moving servers because you don’t like seeing what other people earned in an MMO is such a non issue that you are quite possibly the only person to ever feel like it

It’s not toxic advice to say “if seeing what other people earn in an MMO makes you so annoyed you’d rather be on a quiet server where nobody has anything then MMO’s will be spot aren’t the genres for you”. This isn’t something unique to way 14 bends MMO rules, like this is EverQuest 101 rules

[s32ialx]

I don’t know how to tell you that moving servers because you don’t like seeing what other people earned in an MMO is such a non issue that you are quite possibly the only person to ever feel like it

It’s not toxic advice to say “if seeing what other people earn in an MMO makes you so annoyed you’d rather be on a quiet server where nobody has anything then MMO’s will be spot aren’t the genres for you”. This isn’t something unique to way 14 bends MMO rules, like this is EverQuest 101 rules

you my friend are in your own reality with what I said so I'm done conversing with you lol.

[AmiableApkallu]

Probably because the community and even the developers come off very demanding about "perfection" in nearly every piece of content otherwise you're getting kicked, reported, body checked or duty failed.

In the great Wikipedia tradition, "[citation needed]."

In the ~4 years of playing FFXIV on Crystal, what you've said has literally never happened to me -- even as I ran roulettes while challenging Gerolt to a drinking contest.

I've seen how people act about Frontlines, about Chaotic, about bloody damn everything where the slightest mistake means death or failure and you WILL get chewed out for it, in-game no less

Again, in the great Wikipedia tradition, "[citation needed]."

In the ~4 years of playing FFXIV on Crystal, I've lost to Gerolt multiple times, and no one gives a f.

Anyone who's getting "chewed out" in-game has to be so incompetently bad that other people would prefer get sanctioned by a GM rather than stay silent.

[Aidorouge]

I'll have to disagree most of the casuals are on those low pop servers that's why they are low pop because all the gung-ho mid-core and tryhards are on high pop servers because they want to grind grind grind and the more people the easier it is to grind, and the people who just want a calm relaxing time and do their tiktok videos and others things go on the low pop servers where it's not a rush and you don't feel pressured to catch up or be left behind.

I would say its more that Dynamis is where new players are going, as in those who don't have experience with all the harder parts of crafting and likely don't have much gil to their name to buy the things they want or need. (With higher marked up prices on everything no less.)

Being under-geared and under-funded probably makes failing the phases even worse because they have to contend with not only a lack of people, but provisions too. I doubt there's a lot of them carrying around stacks of food, cordials, or even basic materia (pentameld or not).

They can't even fallback on just data center hopping like everything else either, because the content is locked per world, and just telling them to "farm gil then" isn't the glowing endorsement for the game's content that some people want to think it is.
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In the great Wikipedia tradition, "[citation needed]."

In the ~4 years of playing FFXIV on Crystal, what you've said has literally never happened to me -- even as I ran roulettes while challenging Gerolt to a drinking contest.

Again, in the great Wikipedia tradition, "[citation needed]."

In the ~4 years of playing FFXIV on Crystal, I've lost to Gerolt multiple times, and no one gives a f.

Anyone who's getting "chewed out" in-game has to be so incompetently bad that other people would prefer get sanctioned by a GM rather than stay silent.

If you've been fortunate enough to be surrounded by nothing but sweethearts throughout your time playing the game, good for you, but that hasn't been my experience at all, at least not when trying to do raids or PVP on Aether and Primal. I don't know about Crystal, I only go there to shop. (Though I do make the conscious decision to skip Balmung even if it has the cheapest price ...just in case.)

And what sanctions? It's not like GMs actually care so its pointless to report it, not that filling a ticket is a simple matter anyway.

[hydralus]

You're missing the point and focusing on the mount even though it was just a single example. I guess it was a bad one because I don't actually care about the squirrel mount, I want it but not enough to grind for months straight or break my bank to buy the tokens to get it. It was merely an example because as expansions come out getting extremely tedious stuff like that becomes less about buying the tokens and being a pure grind because people stop grinding those tokens in favor of the new ones thus making it even harder for a casual player to obtain such a thing. And yes nothing is necessary it's just a game, but the fact is the game is suppose to be fun. Also how about you get your toxic ass attitude of telling me to go play a single player game when I clearly stated earlier that I am not talking directly about me or my experiences, I grinded 4 relics in 3 days because I didn't want to front millions of gil for the gacha items and I don't feel like running around the open world, so I stood in the same spot all day every day doing mission after mission getting gold after gold to get it all myself save for the space suit because after 100 spins and no suit I said screw it it's only 230k so I bought 2 and sold the other as individual pieces and made back the money i spent on both.

I am speaking from knowing what other players are thinking, weather you want to see it or not.

You already talked about people being poor so why would you suggest buying tokens as an option? They're FATEs, they're soloable and most anyone can do them (aside, I guess, from the folks who fail solo duties). But yes there are other aspects of the game you might miss out on if you aren't a player that can commit many hours to it. Even if it's not you in this hypothetical scenario, my response remains the same. If you/they feel so distraught when they see another person has something they don't, then single player games are where it's at. If that's what these hypothetical people are thinking, they need to unironically grow up a little. It honestly sounds like a tiring existence that they need to move on from.

[Mawlzy]

All I've heard is that red alerts are not a viable option to complete a relic because they only happen every 4 hours and a casual can't be expected to research their relic that way.
Granted I am unsure why people who don't gather and craft would want to grab a relic for it. It'd be like me spending a week to grab the DRK HW relic despite never playing the job.

Thanks, yeah that's what was puzzling me. I do quite a bit of crafting and gathering, and am finding some of Cosmic Exploration... an okay diversion. But I have no interest in getting relic tools.

As a casual crafter/gatherer I find the Red Alerts rather more compelling than the actual crafting and gathering. The lunar hellscape isn't attractive and makes gathering difficult for me because I can barely see the nodes.

[hydralus]

Thanks, yeah that's what was puzzling me. I do quite a bit of crafting and gathering, and am finding some of Cosmic Exploration... an okay diversion. But I have no interest in getting relic tools.

As a casual crafter/gatherer I find the Red Alerts rather more compelling than the actual crafting and gathering. The lunar hellscape isn't attractive and makes gathering difficult for me because I can barely see the nodes.

I said before that if this is supposed to be the next housing area it is remarkable they found an area more grey than Ishgard. A shame the red alerts don't have rainbow mode like ocean fishing has. Maybe a solar ray shower or something (it might have that I dunno I haven't seen all the red alerts.)

[s32ialx]

I would say its more that Dynamis is where new players are going, as in those who don't have experience with all the harder parts of crafting and likely don't have much gil to their name to buy the things they want or need. (With higher marked up prices on everything no less.)

Being under-geared and under-funded probably makes failing the phases even worse because they have to contend with not only a lack of people, but provisions too. I doubt there's a lot of them carrying around stacks of food, cordials, or even basic materia (pentameld or not).

They can't even fallback on just data center hopping like everything else either, because the content is locked per world, and just telling them to "farm gil then" isn't the glowing endorsement for the game's content that some people want to think it is.
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If you've been fortunate enough to be surrounded by nothing but sweethearts throughout your time playing the game, good for you, but that hasn't been my experience at all, at least not when trying to do raids or PVP on Aether and Primal. I don't know about Crystal, I only go there to shop. (Though I do make the conscious decision to skip Balmung even if it has the cheapest price ...just in case.)

And what sanctions? It's not like GMs actually care so its pointless to report it, not that filling a ticket is a simple matter anyway.

Actually GM's do care to a point if you actually report I have been sent to Morden Gaol a couple times already over players twisting my words which just gave me the reason to turn it around and report them instead since I save logs in screenshots of conversations which are timestamped.

[s32ialx]

You already talked about people being poor so why would you suggest buying tokens as an option? They're FATEs, they're soloable and most anyone can do them (aside, I guess, from the folks who fail solo duties). But yes there are other aspects of the game you might miss out on if you aren't a player that can commit many hours to it. Even if it's not you in this hypothetical scenario, my response remains the same. If you/they feel so distraught when they see another person has something they don't, then single player games are where it's at. If that's what these hypothetical people are thinking, they need to unironically grow up a little. It honestly sounds like a tiring existence that they need to move on from.

I'm done conversing with you as well, but I never suggested people buy the Turali Bicolor Gemstone Voucher I was making a point that they are outrageously out of reach of casual players for casual content considering you need what was it like 5000 of them for the mount?

[Aidorouge]

Actually GM's do care to a point if you actually report I have been sent to Morden Gaol a couple times already over players twisting my words which just gave me the reason to turn it around and report them instead since I save logs in screenshots of conversations which are timestamped.

If you say so, but these days I prefer to just stay quiet and keep group content to a bare minimum so I don't invite any rudeness to begin with, or feel like I was dragging other people down.

Which makes for a twisted irony that I spend time on Dynamis more than ever, but there's nobody here anyway so the game just remains perpetually lonely or feeling like a single player game with the occasional multiplayer lobby.