Cosmic Exploration is CASUAL content with a pinch of midcore

[s32ialx]

I just found out that you can fail the phase upgrade and it completely screws you and you get nothing in fates or red alerts for 8 hours. That's SOOOOO casual friendly

[hydralus]

I just found out that you can fail the phase upgrade and it completely screws you and you get nothing in fates or red alerts for 8 hours. That's SOOOOO casual friendly

It's definitely messed up that lower pop servers can't finish their phases due to low turnout. Doesn't have anything to do with being casual friendly though, it has to do with server pop. I was under the impression that casuals don't care about red alerts anyway.

[Mawlzy]

It's definitely messed up that lower pop servers can't finish their phases due to low turnout. Doesn't have anything to do with being casual friendly though, it has to do with server pop. I was under the impression that casuals don't care about red alerts anyway.

Genuine question: why would they not?

[hydralus]

Genuine question: why would they not?

All I've heard is that red alerts are not a viable option to complete a relic because they only happen every 4 hours and a casual can't be expected to research their relic that way.
Granted I am unsure why people who don't gather and craft would want to grab a relic for it. It'd be like me spending a week to grab the DRK HW relic despite never playing the job.

[s32ialx]

All I've heard is that red alerts are not a viable option to complete a relic because they only happen every 4 hours and a casual can't be expected to research their relic that way.
Granted I am unsure why people who don't gather and craft would want to grab a relic for it. It'd be like me spending a week to grab the DRK HW relic despite never playing the job.

the reason we want the rellics is because a (current) max level relic gives +35% bonus to Lunar Credits which is the Gashapon reward garbage that has the new space suit, new glasses, a new mount, some really nice Orch scrolls, lots of the new uncommon dyes, some furniture locked behind it and majority of the time all you get is prisms or other garbage that you don't want or need (like the furniture if you don't want it as it sells for pennies). Now I know you can say "just buy it off the MB" but not everyone has loads of gil to throw around even if they are all finally under a mill but that's still a lot of gil when you are also trying to save up for other things and could earn it with time instead of gil, if that Gashapon wasn't a total scam for the majority.

[hydralus]

the reason we want the rellics is because a (current) max level relic gives +35% bonus to Lunar Credits which is the Gashapon reward garbage that has the new space suit, new glasses, a new mount, some really nice Orch scrolls, lots of the new uncommon dyes, some furniture locked behind it and majority of the time all you get is prisms or other garbage that you don't want or need (like the furniture if you don't want it as it sells for pennies). Now I know you can say "just buy it off the MB" but not everyone has loads of gil to throw around even if they are all finally under a mill but that's still a lot of gil when you are also trying to save up for other things and could earn it with time instead of gil, if that Gashapon wasn't a total scam for the majority.

That's doing it the slowest way possible. The quick way would be to do a few hours gathering for essentially anything worth more than 700 gil a piece (should be able to get 1,400 of them casually within an hour), and voila after 2 hours you have all the gil you need to get every reward. No need for RNG. You could have gotten that in the time we've been spending chatting on the forums here and you've saved yourself ~6 hours of grinding out a relic and countless more of grinding currency.

The problem here is that rather than asking if there's a better way, for some reason you're dead set on saying it's an impossible expectation. Yet you think it's more reasonable that a person would spend hours grinding out a relic tool for the +35% gacha currency rather than just getting the gil. Ludicrous.

[s32ialx]

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WoW ya'll see one word 'mount' and run with it as if a single example is the only thing, like nothing else similar happens, like it's solely about the one specific mount. LOL.

other examples housing, that's exteme fomo because of how shit the bidding system is majority of house owners just have the house to have it not even an FC house and they only even go in it to not let someone else have it where 99.99999% of the rest of the time they never step foot in the door and just let it collect digital dust. there's many examples but because I used the squirrel mount as one you attach to that like there's no other possible ways of high pop fomo.

and to answer the FoMo of getting a mount is it makes you feel inadequate seeing that people are able to just breeze content in no time while you sit there struggling so being on a low pop server where it's all casuals feels less stresfull.

[s32ialx]

That's doing it the slowest way possible. The quick way would be to do a few hours gathering for essentially anything worth more than 700 gil a piece (should be able to get 1,400 of them casually within an hour), and voila after 2 hours you have all the gil you need to get every reward. No need for RNG. You could have gotten that in the time we've been spending chatting on the forums here and you've saved yourself ~6 hours of grinding out a relic and countless more of grinding currency.

The problem here is that rather than asking if there's a better way, for some reason you're dead set on saying it's an impossible expectation. Yet you think it's more reasonable that a person would spend hours grinding out a relic tool for the +35% gacha currency rather than just getting the gil. Ludicrous.

What you're telling me to do is don't help the progression of the CE and instead just go grind for gil because a casuals grind is pointless and all they should do is farm mats for others to make gil and just buy the rewards instead of trying to enjoy the new content themselves. GOT IT.

[Mawlzy]

All I've heard is that red alerts are not a viable option to complete a relic because they only happen every 4 hours and a casual can't be expected to research their relic that way.
Granted I am unsure why people who don't gather and craft would want to grab a relic for it. It'd be like me spending a week to grab the DRK HW relic despite never playing the job.

Thanks, yeah that's what was puzzling me. I do quite a bit of crafting and gathering, and am finding some of Cosmic Exploration... an okay diversion. But I have no interest in getting relic tools.

As a casual crafter/gatherer I find the Red Alerts rather more compelling than the actual crafting and gathering. The lunar hellscape isn't attractive and makes gathering difficult for me because I can barely see the nodes.

[hydralus]

Thanks, yeah that's what was puzzling me. I do quite a bit of crafting and gathering, and am finding some of Cosmic Exploration... an okay diversion. But I have no interest in getting relic tools.

As a casual crafter/gatherer I find the Red Alerts rather more compelling than the actual crafting and gathering. The lunar hellscape isn't attractive and makes gathering difficult for me because I can barely see the nodes.

I said before that if this is supposed to be the next housing area it is remarkable they found an area more grey than Ishgard. A shame the red alerts don't have rainbow mode like ocean fishing has. Maybe a solar ray shower or something (it might have that I dunno I haven't seen all the red alerts.)