Cosmic Exploration is Bad

[Ekymus]

I don't know what happened, but it's taken me 2 days of playing to get one level on my fisher.

I thought this was supposed to be some kind of activity for crafters and gatherers to level up, but apparently, its only reason for being is for people to waste their time, get zero XP, and make zero progress towards anything.

It doesn't help that the missions are so badly worded that I can't figure out what I'm supposed to do most of the time.

I came into this really wanting to like this and really wanting to have fun leveling up my gatherers (I don't play crafters, I don't like the crafting system), but I haven't ever been this frustrated or disappointed in this game as I am with this game mode.

I really hope they fix this soon. It's like they made this for the super hardcore players only and left the rest of the player base out to hang.

[Supersnow845]

What exactly are you struggling with?

Are you performing the rank D stellar missions. They your first port of call, rank D missions should be relatively easy for someone of any level

[Ekymus]

I had to spend almost 400K on gear to just get to the minimum iLvl to even have a chance at success on those and I'm still failing. It doesn't help that min iLvl is 626 or some b*llsh*t like that. And I know that to some people 400K might not sound like a lot, but I only have 300K left to my name at this point.

This content SUCKS. I think the best I've gotten on any of the missions was bronze... I get more XP from Ocean Fishing, but I haven't been able to get into an Ocean Fishing group in 6 months.

I hope they fix this at some point, because as it is, this is the worst content in the game and the worst content I've ever played in FFXIV.

[Supersnow845]

What gear did you buy? What level are you at based on your gear?

If you are synced then your gear may be playing a larger part than you expect but (in the nicest way possible) you may have bought the wrong gear

I can offer some advice but i need a bit more info

[Ekymus]

I'm level 97. to get to the min iLvl gear level I had to buy the sh*t you can get inside Cosmic Exploration. If you don't hit that min iLvl then you have zero chance of success. Once I spent the gil, I was sometimes able to hit bronze level.

If you like this sh*tty content, then by all means, please... continue to play it. But this is awful and it's clearly only meant to be played by the most hardcore crafters in the game. If you play gatherers, the devs have gone out of their way to make your time playing a living H*ll and clearly want you to quite playing gatherers.

It doesn't help that they let the entire "story" of the base getting setup be finished within the first few hours of release so anyone with a job wasn't able to participate.

But I'm done with this content until I hear that they fixed it and corrected the problems. It's NOT fun and it's NOT enjoyable, and it's NOT a way to level gatherers.

[Supersnow845]

The problem you are running into is caused by the fact you have severely weak gear for what you are trying to attempt. Crafting and gathering is designed so that gear jumps up in bundles of 10 levels, it doesn’t function like combat gear that moves almost every level

If you are level 9x then the game is expecting you to use the purple scrip gear you can buy in raz-at-Han to use all the way to level 100 where you would progr as to current gear. Using purple scrip gear at level 90 will make D and C ranks a breeze and B ranks possible

The game could arguably do a better job of explaining how the crafting/gathering gear progression is rather unique but this is also how the crafters/gatherers have always works

[Alyx-Greywind]

The problem you are running into is caused by the fact you have severely weak gear for what you are trying to attempt. Crafting and gathering is designed so that gear jumps up in bundles of 10 levels, it doesn’t function like combat gear that moves almost every level

If you are level 9x then the game is expecting you to use the purple scrip gear you can buy in raz-at-Han to use all the way to level 100 where you would progr as to current gear. Using purple scrip gear at level 90 will make D and C ranks a breeze and B ranks possible

The game could arguably do a better job of explaining how the crafting/gathering gear progression is rather unique but this is also how the crafters/gatherers have always works

The game actually tells you to use White Gear from the Vendors for your iLevel warning, the missions at first are meant to be designed around that ease of access which I think it's failing at.

[Stasya]

The problem you are running into is caused by the fact you have severely weak gear for what you are trying to attempt. Crafting and gathering is designed so that gear jumps up in bundles of 10 levels, it doesn’t function like combat gear that moves almost every level

If you are level 9x then the game is expecting you to use the purple scrip gear you can buy in raz-at-Han to use all the way to level 100 where you would progr as to current gear. Using purple scrip gear at level 90 will make D and C ranks a breeze and B ranks possible

The game could arguably do a better job of explaining how the crafting/gathering gear progression is rather unique but this is also how the crafters/gatherers have always works

If op main complain is about gatherers then hes rightfully to trash talk devs about it. Even with penta melded gear some of the A quests are like pulling teeth for gold rank. Exploration is badly designed for miner/botanist at max level I can imagine it is hell to do just for leveling. Do i need to tell that A quests have some that require you to have like 720 at least mid if not penta meld gear from various crafters to not miss on huge points on relic progress?

For just leveling in this dumb content i assume you need to prepare HQ melded/food gear at every quest breakpoint. It does not feel casual hop in to get levels.

I started exploration as miner and i regret it every second, while everyone is having fun afking at base doing crafting.

That said, this is casual content. That's not the same as "free" content or even "easy" content.

Sir please step back from keyboard for at least a day. Yes it is casual. Yes it should not be giga free. But doing it should not feel like a total waste of time (and cordials that I can't even buy with cosmic currency!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

[Supersnow845]

If op main complain is about gatherers then hes rightfully to trash talk devs about it. Even with penta melded gear some of the A quests are like pulling teeth for gold rank. Exploration is badly designed for miner/botanist at max level I can imagine it is hell to do just for leveling. Do i need to tell that A quests have some that require you to have like 720 at least mid if not penta meld gear from various crafters to not miss on huge points on relic progress?

For just leveling in this dumb content i assume you need to prepare HQ melded/food gear at every quest breakpoint. It does not feel casual hop in to get levels.

I started exploration as miner and i regret it every second, while everyone is having fun afking at base doing crafting.



Sir please step back from keyboard for at least a day. Yes it is casual. Yes it should not be giga free. But doing it should not feel like a total waste of time (and cordials that I can't even buy with cosmic currency!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

I’m not sure why you are saying “imagine how bad levelling is when A ranks are so hard” when A ranks are specifically designed to be content that isn’t easy

If you want to macro with no food on mid tier pentamelded gear then simply do B ranks. The missions that give tier 4 data in the A rank are intentionally harder

Like genuinely what’s so bad about there being a tier specifically for people who want to do a bit more

[SkankyRoe]

I’m not sure why you are saying “imagine how bad levelling is when A ranks are so hard” when A ranks are specifically designed to be content that isn’t easy

If you want to macro with no food on mid tier pentamelded gear then simply do B ranks. The missions that give tier 4 data in the A rank are intentionally harder

Like genuinely what’s so bad about there being a tier specifically for people who want to do a bit more

I disagree... Chaotic is exclusively savage content.

Cosmic (For quite a few issues it has), it still appeals quite heavily to casuals.. It is casual content that casual players can engage with quite extensively if they so wish... It is also just content that has some difficult counterparts for those desiring more of a challenge, but honestly to do everything, e.g., contribute to server progression and to do relics you barely need to engage with the more challenging components, and the relics progressively get easier.

Most of the A-1/A-2 recipes can be macro'd with relative ease, if you were also able to do the 3* recipes.

After first relic the rate of data logs increases by 50%, and then it increases by an additional 50% for every other relic, e.g., 100% when working on 4th relic.

I think the two of you are missing that the complaints are specifically about Gathering missions. You know, the ones that can't be macro'd? That can't be done back to back to back like the Crafting ones? That subject you to heavy rng? Nobody is complaining about the crafting A missions, because those are easypeasy with pentamelds and a macro given to you by a solver website. The issue is specifically how ass the Gathering side of this content is, Crafters are eating good while Gatherers got mega shafted.