Cosmic Exploration - Great for DoH, Stressful and Unpleasant for DoL

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

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Not an actual fix but rather temporary workaround until they decide to work on that (hopefully): you can commence aetherial reduction while running to your next nodes. You do need to click spam the list rather than using the 'quick' button because that one cancels when you move an inch. It saves me some time and to my experience, was just what I needed to get 9-13 collectible at 1000 collectibility which is usually what I needed to get gold rating fairy consistently.

[Rsmeers]

There might be a breakpoint you are just missing on the gatherers boon one. I am mid tier pentamelded (mostly using materia from island sanctuary so no 11’s or 12’s) and for me all gatherer boon missions when they spawn 6 nodes 2 will be 100% if I use pioneers gift 1+2 and the other 4 will be 90% if I use pioneers gift 1+2. If you use nophica’s/nald’thal’s tidings on the 2 that are 100% chances then you basically gold that mission 100% of the time even with bad luck on the 90%

If you are only getting 70% you may just be missing a breakpoint you may be able to hit easily with really cheap food and those missions don’t need a lot of GP so if you use food to fall over the breakpoint line with low GP it shouldn’t negatively affect you

On Rank A missions such as Light Plating Materials I can get 68% at best, wearing Everseeker set and tools + 690 accessories and using food and both Gift skills. Sometimes I get the Perception bonus (which gives +40% Gatherer's Boon), but it's super rare. So I suppose it's also very bad luck on my part as I've managed to consistently miss 70%+ Gatherer's Boon on lower rank missions and never get the Location Effect bonus. At least it's been a bit better today.

[mallleable]

I think some are missing the point. It's not that the tasks themselves are difficult, I do like they ask you to pay attention to what they're asking for. It is the combination of the tight time requirements for missions, nodes within mission being so spread out, locations of missions being so spread out, and GP regenerating between everything being slow (and long cooldowns on cordials) that create a feeling of being run ragged which feels unintentional. Playing gatherers in Cosmic Exploration is a constant state of running out of time, running out GP, and running around the map. It adds up quickly. Giving us more options to get GP back back between missions other than just cordials, and waiting would alleviate the bulk of the stress.

[Casti_EL]

I agree - the time requirements are far too tight, especially on Class A missions. I have 720 gear (690 accessories), avg level of 701, 4800+ Gathering and Perception and I'm still falling short on some of these. I don't believe I'm doing anything wrong in terms of actions but with the running around, GP use (especially on the collectable missions - can pretty much burn through 900GP on just the first node), and tight timer, it's close to complete the mission let alone get gold. What's worse, you spend the time trying, miss out by like 2-3% and still get nothing for trying (at least give us something for it).

Don't mind Red Alert missions and the like - can at least make some exp and currency on them, plus they are quite fun. However, the gathering missions really need some work to make them appealing - I got bored of losing out and just went back to gathering in Eorzea.

I like the idea of CE, but I would say for Gathering - Diadem is still better by a long shot in terms of the way it was done.

[HyperiusUltima]

Generally I think what needs to be done is Gatherers need to be reset the same as Crafters since Crafters get their CP Reset every craft. The issue with Leves right now is that you're being forced to wait, and with Revisit not working as a Trait in leves, we can't alleviate anything - not even if Revisit were allowed to proc in them regardless.

Having finished my MIN's Cosmic Tool, I can say that Gathering is the biggest pain to grind because of the fact that you're GP Locked the entire way. Imagine if you were CP Locked the entire set of crafts? You'd be forced to wait, and it'd take longer to grind out the tools.

Resetting Gatherer GP after a completed/failed Leve is important to keeping the gameplay loop in Cosmic Exploration good for those who have the grindset to do so. The other option is to have Revisit proc in Cosmic Exploration, meaning you can alternate between As and other Missions to recover your GP proper instead of waiting.

[Astronis]

Generally I think what needs to be done is Gatherers need to be reset the same as Crafters since Crafters get their CP Reset every craft. The issue with Leves right now is that you're being forced to wait, and with Revisit not working as a Trait in leves, we can't alleviate anything - not even if Revisit were allowed to proc in them regardless.

Having finished my MIN's Cosmic Tool, I can say that Gathering is the biggest pain to grind because of the fact that you're GP Locked the entire way. Imagine if you were CP Locked the entire set of crafts? You'd be forced to wait, and it'd take longer to grind out the tools.

Resetting Gatherer GP after a completed/failed Leve is important to keeping the gameplay loop in Cosmic Exploration good for those who have the grindset to do so. The other option is to have Revisit proc in Cosmic Exploration, meaning you can alternate between As and other Missions to recover your GP proper instead of waiting.

I didn't notice this so much with fisher, but with miner the waaaaiting is really...really boring.

[Minali]

It would be nice if the timer started when you interact with the first node, not when you initiate the mission.

That would be very helpful indeed, considering you don't see the node locations before pressing "initiate".

[SkankyRoe]

There might be a breakpoint you are just missing on the gatherers boon one. I am mid tier pentamelded (mostly using materia from island sanctuary so no 11’s or 12’s) and for me all gatherer boon missions when they spawn 6 nodes 2 will be 100% if I use pioneers gift 1+2 and the other 4 will be 90% if I use pioneers gift 1+2. If you use nophica’s/nald’thal’s tidings on the 2 that are 100% chances then you basically gold that mission 100% of the time even with bad luck on the 90%

If you are only getting 70% you may just be missing a breakpoint you may be able to hit easily with really cheap food and those missions don’t need a lot of GP so if you use food to fall over the breakpoint line with low GP it shouldn’t negatively affect you

I find it odd that you would be hitting 100% with no DT materia when I'm using the 7.2 high tier pentameld set with HQ food and still only getting either 74% or 78%(can't remember which) after using both Pioneer's Gift actions. I suppose it could be an issue of the high tier set's stat priority(it was built around 7.2 Legendary Nodes rather than these missions), but given you aren't using any DT materia I'd still expect the high tier set to surpass yours in both Gathering and Perception, so it doesn't really make any sense.

[Supersnow845]

I find it odd that you would be hitting 100% with no DT materia when I'm using the 7.2 high tier pentameld set with HQ food and still only getting either 74% or 78%(can't remember which) after using both Pioneer's Gift actions. I suppose it could be an issue of the high tier set's stat priority(it was built around 7.2 Legendary Nodes rather than these missions), but given you aren't using any DT materia I'd still expect the high tier set to surpass yours in both Gathering and Perception, so it doesn't really make any sense.

What is your current stat distribution

If you went hard on 7.2 legendary nodes you might have a bit too much GP. I pentamelded after 7.2 had already slowed down a bit so I went low on GP and high on the other two stats, I don’t have no DT materia. Just I went 12/12/11/9/9 rather than 12/12/12/11/11

Maybe I accidently hit a high breakpoint pumping too much into gathering

[Atma]

I did a reduction mission the first time where it was just 8, and scratched my head. then I got to the ones where it was... 25, 35... and just said 'lol... no.'

I don't even touch them now and am for the first time considering scrapping DoL and just doing DoH for the content despite my strong preference for DoL. Both timers and requirements need serious adjustment. This is crafter/gatherer content, not combat content. We don't need twitch gameplay in combat content, and we sure as hell don't need it here.