Cosmic Exploration Opinions

[SkankyRoe]

It's not going to work 100% of the time, but you should be able to do it like ~75% of the time if you're properly geared and know what you're doing/how to use your skills to stack the odds in your favor.

You underestimate how much rng can screw a person over even when stacking the odds in your favour. I have the the high end BiS pentamelds and HQ food, and even with using the correct skills at the right times I can't get lucky enough with the gatherer's boon ones to consistently achieve Gold ranks.

And then there's absolute bullshit like that one Class A ALC mission that asks for three crafts each requiring you catch a specific fish that is the rarest in a pool of five and can't be helped with Identical Cast or Double/Triple Catch, all on a strict time limit. I've attempted that mission over a dozen times and I've only twice actually ever caught one of the necessary fish, and both times it was with barely enough time left for the single craft that it enabled.

If that's too RNG for you or the timers are too clutch, do the ones that are easier. They tend to be better time/reward investment anyway.

Upgrading the relics require Class A missions due to the IV's.

[Supersnow845]

You underestimate how much rng can screw a person over even when stacking the odds in your favour. I have the the high end BiS pentamelds and HQ food, and even with using the correct skills at the right times I can't get lucky enough with the gatherer's boon ones to consistently achieve Gold ranks.

And then there's absolute bullshit like that one Class A ALC mission that asks for three crafts each requiring you catch a specific fish that is the rarest in a pool of five and can't be helped with Identical Cast or Double/Triple Catch, all on a strict time limit. I've attempted that mission over a dozen times and I've only twice actually ever caught one of the necessary fish, and both times it was with barely enough time left for the single craft that it enabled.

That alc one just wants you to spam ambitious lure to get a much better chance of a large fish then if you get the other large fish that overlaps the one you want to craft with surface slap that fish and use ambitious lure again. If you have the GP you can also use patience to guarantee big fish for anglers art then use big fishing to further increase the chance of getting the fish you want

The fish you want and the fish you surface slap are the only ones that have a big bite so it’s really easy to near guarantee them with ambitious lure

[SkankyRoe]

That alc one just wants you to spam ambitious lure to get a much better chance of a large fish then if you get the other large fish that overlaps the one you want to craft with surface slap that fish and use ambitious lure again. If you have the GP you can also use patience to guarantee big fish for anglers art then use big fishing to further increase the chance of getting the fish you want

The fish you want and the fish you surface slap are the only ones that have a big bite so it’s really easy to near guarantee them with ambitious lure

I've been utilizing all the large fish actions but they don't seem to be helping any. I've given up on that mission for the time being, I'll try to get it Gold later when I work on my Gatherer tools.

[Fishbun]

The big issues with Fisher Missions in particular is that most of them are simply a puzzle that you need to solve, and then use your abilities as such. This is similar to Big Fishing, where you need to use Fisher's different lures, abilities, and various methods of prepwork to catch most of the Big Fish within a limited period. The major difference here is that players are not allowed to do any sort of prepwork (you cannot build anglers art or get swimbait beforehand, and all stacks and swimbait are cleared upon reporting a mission), and you are expected to do the missions in rapid succession.

A good example of this is Westward Ecological Survey. You simply need to catch four different fish in a time limit, using two types of bait. Simple enough, the three weak bite fish both bite on either bait, and the two strong bite fish will bite on one bait or the other. So the strategy is to simply catch any one fish with a given bait type, if its a weak bite, slap it and recast for another weak bite. After that, simply use Ambitious lure to get the strong bite with each different bait. The problem comes when you realize that each lure skill only ever has a chance to guarantee the corresponding bite type. So the player can be stuck spending 60 GP a cast for no gain, on a mission that expects a clear within three minutes for the gold.

Top this off with the fact that pass or fail, after a mission, a Gatherer of any type receives no replenishment of GP. A Crafter who either fails a crafting mission, wants to attempt again for a better rank, or wants to start the next one, simply opens their menu and selects a new mission, is given their materials, and is free to start crafting with full CP, and they can continue to chain this as long as they like. For a Gatherer, they need to wait for their GP, and possibly cordials, to reset before starting their next mission at the same level as a crafter, as well as having to move about the map. Token rates seem about the same across missions, so Gatherers end up having to do extra waiting and management that crafters dont, alongside having mission tanking RNG.

[Aidorouge]

Seems like it's hardcore content, just for gatherers/crafters instead of combat jobs, so I'm going to pass on it.

[hydralus]

You can start it at level 10.

[Asari5]

how long do you need to get one class from 10 to 100? did someone already do that?

[hydralus]

how long do you need to get one class from 10 to 100? did someone already do that?

I saw someone level from 42-44 with only 2 minutes in between so I imagine the leveling is quite speedy. I'm sure it takes a while at later levels but at least at low levels it seems very efficient.

[Valence]

Seems like it's hardcore content, just for gatherers/crafters instead of combat jobs, so I'm going to pass on it.

It is not, and I have no idea why people keep spreading this lie at this point. Hardcore is A-2 and A-3. A-1 if you're there with low budget gear as well. Either way, anything up to B-rank is casual.

[Ekymus]

It is not, and I have no idea why people keep spreading this lie at this point. Hardcore is A-2 and A-3. A-1 if you're there with low budget gear as well. Either way, anything up to B-rank is casual.

No, it's not, and you are wrong.

The entirety of Cosmic Exploration is Hardcore content for omni-crafters and gatherers. It's not casual in any way, shape, or form.