Cosmic Exploration Opinions

[Khryseis_Astra]

You get multiple items per reduction. Up to 8 from 1000 collectability, but usually 2-4. You also don't need to do 20 crafts. Get HQ and you only need to craft 3, which is 27 gathered mats. Very doable.

You can tell I don’t really gather much outside of content like this! lol I was focusing on trying to gather the collectibles, forgetting it wasn’t a one to one ratio! So I managed to pull it off once tonight, but the other time I did it I ran out of time and gp.

My new annoyance is every time I get a Big Bang ticket, it’s cordials. They should be weighted towards the good stuff, given you already have to go through RNG to even be a pilot!

Not sure if it was a glitch or user error, but I finally got to pilot the mech suit tonight, and the crystals weren’t breaking… tried turning auto-target off and on, but could only get a few to break and the laser button never lit up. So I only finished at silver… and my ticket gave me… you guessed it, cordials! LOL

[MatchaokaCha]

Asking SE to make things easier is like wishing on a monkey's paw.

[Tetiroth]

Is the idea to just keep doing these quests over and over and hope to get lucky with expert recipe perks? Trying to get IV crafting exp and seem to have hit a wall. Can get bronze consistently with food, potion and fully pentamelded. Hit gold once or twice

[Supersnow845]

Is the idea to just keep doing these quests over and over and hope to get lucky with expert recipe perks? Trying to get IV crafting exp and seem to have hit a wall. Can get bronze consistently with food, potion and fully pentamelded. Hit gold once or twice

The experts expect you to treat them as actual experts, not hope that your byregot macro falls on good condition by accident

If you engage with them as regular experts they are on the easier end, they certainly aren’t at the level of say………resplendent relics when they were current

[Anzaman]

Currently working on my 3rd tool.

A-1 seems quite doable with macro, but I'll personally try to get gold on A-2 and never touch them again unless absolutely needed.

Mech Ops are nice refresh between non-stop crafting, but I do wish there'd be some way to get back to the middle without having to run half the map to reach nearest station - like how we have NPC that allows us to teleport there.

I would have also loved them to include some method to visit the old instances of the location.

[Kisshu]

Mech Ops are nice refresh between non-stop crafting, but I do wish there'd be some way to get back to the middle without having to run half the map to reach nearest station - like how we have NPC that allows us to teleport there.

You get a special return ability that sends you to the center of the map, and it's on a 5 seconds cooldown.

[tsuchii]

Boring
I can't even craft somewhere else
The moon space is just desolate and depressing
The fetes equivalents are so stupid and devoid of any gameplay
This is such a failure imho, a big let down

[Anzaman]

You get a special return ability that sends you to the center of the map, and it's on a 5 seconds cooldown.

You know what - I went through action book (P) and didn't see any special ability.

Think the fact that it shows as blank "Duty Action 1" fooled my brain.

Oh well, going to save some time now in future events. Thanks.

[Mawlzy]

What do people make of the Red Alert that involves the battery charging?

I dutifully ran around in little triangles watching about 60 other people doing likewise in a sort of zombified haze, wondering how content like this could be made more compelling.

[Valence]

I’ve been playing a lot of cosmic since it came out and I now have 9 relics out of 11 (the 8 crafters and BTN)

In that time I’ve come to realise that cosmic is incredibly well designed content…….within a very narrow niche. As someone who likes crafting for the sake of it the crafting side of cosmic basically breaks all the norms expected from crafting, massive progress required with tiny durabilities, huge quality with no progress needed, using the special action to actually turn a normal craft into an expert craft. Basically every way you can bend the current crafting formula is present here (the only thing really lacking is brutally difficult experts that basically NEED a specialist to be done but honestly specialists are basically vestigial content since they redid the crafters in ShB and they should just figure out how to distribute the specialist system in a different way). However none of this means anything if you don’t like crafting in the first place. If you hate crafting then cosmic amounts to 10,000 macros for 8 ugly stage 1 tools then logging off

Gatherers are similar, the gatherers A ranks have some RNG involved but they are basically a hard GP wall + correct use of potions to properly gold and like the crafters they are basically built around bending the gathering formula as far it can possibly bend in this game. Collectibles encourage meticulous woodsman use not just the same boring scour+scrutiny. Fates require you know where the three groupings of nodes are and start at one before the timer starts etc. again it’s all very well designed (I can knock a few points for GP not restoring between missions but you can sub that out by just doing a crafter)……..for people who already like gatherers. If you don’t then it’s just some brutally hard leves you probably don’t understand what you are doing wrong for 3 ugly first stage relics

Then the actual building aspect. The moon alone has 15 stages and we are only on 3. And everything contributes, even spinning kupo of fortune.

I’m genuinely impressed that the devs did something so rich with the crafters and gatherers……….but as I said if you don’t already like them there is nothing here for you but frustration as the A ranks have hard walls on them for expected competency. A ranks are not where you learn these skills which is frustrating.

I don’t give out praise to the devs often (as most people probably know) but I genuinely think cosmic is a joy for those of us who already liked the crafters and gatherers but I do hope it’s made less frustrating for people casually flitting in trying to figure out what’s going on and how they can contribute

I have only done one relic so far but I do agree with this assessment. I don't especially enjoy crafting (especially when spammed), but unlike for pve I would be genuinely at a loss in telling you what to change or improve to make me like it more. The expert recipes especially bring a lot of rng and agency to every trial and having recipes change their crafting and recipe parameters that much is very good.

I think the thing that keeps me into this content is the progression system, it's very well made imo, where there was none in firmament beyond the relic quests that were more... bog standard until expert recipes. But here you collect datasets, you have to target the right missions to get what you need, it's not much but I really like that somehow, in spite of me being relatively mid/neutral toward crafting in general, especially when I have to do it for a lot of crafts in succession.

I also think that A-ranks aren't different from expert recipes from previous relics, where getting to tier 3 consistently (or even on occasion) actually demanded skill and attention. For everybody else that couldn't bother, they could just aim for tier 1 collectability and be done with bruteforce macros/good gear or a minimum amount of skill, it would just ask for more grind. If people dont like A-ranks, they can stick with B-ranks and be perfectly fine (B-ranks reward half of what As do on average). A-ranks are just for players that want to push further, like ex/savage is for pve people that want to push further.