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  1. #1
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    MoofiaBossVal's Avatar
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    Kokoro Liliro
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    The new zone has a neat theme and presentation, but I still do not fundamentally like the crafting gameplay of navigating menus and you hit your macro and let it do its thing. Expert crafts requires you to pay more attention but you are still looking at menus. Not visually engaging. It is also strange that there doesn't seem to be any actual multiplayer component to this. You don't need other people to get your points. It is everyone playing a solo game in the same space, but I suppose this applies to most of FF14. It's not like FF11 where you are really playing a Final Fantasy game as a team with other people.
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    Divine Power
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    Phantom
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal View Post
    The new zone has a neat theme and presentation, but I still do not fundamentally like the crafting gameplay of navigating menus and you hit your macro and let it do its thing. Expert crafts requires you to pay more attention but you are still looking at menus. Not visually engaging. It is also strange that there doesn't seem to be any actual multiplayer component to this. You don't need other people to get your points. It is everyone playing a solo game in the same space, but I suppose this applies to most of FF14. It's not like FF11 where you are really playing a Final Fantasy game as a team with other people.
    This.

    I don't have pentameter, nor do I want it - not my thing. That said I do have over 600 hi-cordials and I do 740 food buffs.

    I was expecting that gathered gather and crafters gain those materials? Not sure if ot works like that as I've only done mining.

    There's alot of flaws in the content - hence the lodestone post (that doesn't even touch upon Drivingways location to get back to the map in bestaway burrow)

    I was expecting something abit more engaging than 2 different fates (that get over powered with the mechanism that get selected) and missions that don't really have any other impact outside of picking the ones you need to progress your tool.

    Speaking of tools - why are they not bade 690 from the first step if they give lunar token buffs?

    I'll most likely finish miner and move on.

    I'm happy for all the gather and crafters that are enjoying it, don't get me wrong. This kind of content just isn't for me I suppose.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Sequential missions are rank A3. They are the hardest missions you can do in any content at the moment. I don’t think making them so hard that you can’t gold them 100% of the time in current gear is necessarily a bad thing
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Sequential missions are rank A3. They are the hardest missions you can do in any content at the moment. I don’t think making them so hard that you can’t gold them 100% of the time in current gear is necessarily a bad thing
    I'm running a mid tier teamcraft meld set (or a bit above) and I can on average reach 50ish % on A-3s. I am okay with that.
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    I'm running a mid tier teamcraft meld set (or a bit above) and I can on average reach 50ish % on A-3s. I am okay with that.
    Same. They're pretty easily macroable up to 50% chance of HQ. Solid 75% chance of getting gold since you get 2 attempts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    Same. They're pretty easily macroable up to 50% chance of HQ. Solid 75% chance of getting gold since you get 2 attempts.
    Actually tried with delineations, regularly reaching 85+ with those. They're very undervalued.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Actually tried with delineations, regularly reaching 85+ with those. They're very undervalued.
    Once I get all the tools done I'll definitely give that a go.
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    for content as big as this. announced and talked about so often... in a MMO... i would have expected more than just crafting and gathering reduced to its very core.

    'you can do it in a group' simply means we are able to do it while we're in a group..... amazing MMO content
    'working together'... what a tease.
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    Tetiroth Crescent
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    Completing A-1,2 Crafting Quests

    Is the idea to just keep doing these quests over and over and hope to get lucky with expert recipe perks? Trying to get IV crafting exp and seem to have hit a wall. Can get bronze consistently with food, potion and fully pentamelded. Hit gold once or twice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetiroth View Post
    Is the idea to just keep doing these quests over and over and hope to get lucky with expert recipe perks? Trying to get IV crafting exp and seem to have hit a wall. Can get bronze consistently with food, potion and fully pentamelded. Hit gold once or twice
    The experts expect you to treat them as actual experts, not hope that your byregot macro falls on good condition by accident

    If you engage with them as regular experts they are on the easier end, they certainly aren’t at the level of say………resplendent relics when they were current
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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