Cosmic Exploration progression is poorly handled

[Valence]

At least if it was shared and had actual interactions between players, but here the only interaction we get is participating into filling the same progression bars, by collecting imaginary virtual resources that aren't even pooled together either but handled as individual tokens used for scoring..

[Zeeds]

Thanks for the FOMoO, square.

[Gurgeh]

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The devs are obviously able to cap/timegate content, they do it with savage which is played by a small section of the player base so that it is not over and done with too quickly. So why not cap the content that is literally accessible to the entire game populace

Never mind time gating 'completing' savage. They don't even want to ever start it. (unless your no lifing your crafting and gil farming)

I really enjoyed restoring Doma.
What is the point in 'community' content, that the community can't join in on.
(Doesn't affect me. Crafting and gathering is soured for me now with the whole savage race so I'm just going to take a look in on the moon - whenever, but I can see its a missed opportunity for those that would appreciate it.)

[Havenchild]

Those are not as opposite as you pretend. I mean, we achieve to miss several steps in less than 12 hours. To me that a proof that the "long running part" is not well designed. Also, we were promised we could see every steps. People starting in a couple of month will see the zone already finished. If you want to make something long running, you have to leave the possibility for players to engage with it anytime down the line, not only in month after release.

Sure,

But realistically it is quite impossible to account for several timezones, for several different activity levels, for several months all while sharing a cohesive progression check, and making sure no one misses out on any step.

I'd love to see a good example in any MMO that has achieved such a task while accomodating all of these variables. Do you have one or are we now just asking SE for the impossible?

[CVXIV]

That's what I recall too, but that doesn't seem to be the case if this is anything to go by
I just got home from classes, so it's a bit disappointing that the progress most likely is already done

So I finally got into the content and there is a video log of what I assume are the cutscenes of what we have missed

[Ukina]

Y "I want this to have a strong feeling of "doing it together", to give that MMO feeling"
Y "Island Sanctuary was solo content, but this is meant to be done together, but you will still be able to enjoy is solo as well"
Y "During ishard restoration, it was more of a "real time thing" where only players wo were there for each step could visually see the development and the differences, but this time we also want people to be able to "look back" even if they only join the content at a later stage"

This is what Yoshi-P told about Cosmic exploration in PLL85 7.2 part 1...

[Mawlzy]

Sure,

But realistically it is quite impossible to account for several timezones, for several different activity levels, for several months all while sharing a cohesive progression check, and making sure no one misses out on any step.

I'd love to see a good example in any MMO that has achieved such a task while accomodating all of these variables. Do you have one or are we now just asking SE for the impossible?

You simply make the work required to reach each check-point long enough such that it doesn't get completed before you've made morning coffee. That is complicated in 14 due to the uneven population on different DCs - a problem SE created.

[Blindheart]

Ok I am a bit bummed about this. I didn’t event know this content was dropping today. Just saw the social media posts and was like oh cool I’ll check this out in a few days when I have time to play new content. But now I find out it’s a server progress system like firmament and not a solo content like island sanctuary. And apparently I’ve missed the boat by just being at work and not having time to game until the weekend?

How is that fair!?

Surely they can create instanced zone for each stage of the development so people can experience the content from the start if they join late.

[Kaurhz]

Forums: "We want to have long form content to keep us entertained for longer periods of time"

SE: Cosmic Exploration

Forums: " Why are you punishing people who can't play all day?"

- and the wheel continues to turn.

Anyone who defends the flipfloping of these forums is a joke. SE can only farm L's at this point.

This is the result of what happens when the point of this thread goes completely over your head, or you are simply not comprehending at all, or you are deliberately trying to be disingenuous...

Long-form content is good, but the progression aspect is still FOMO ultimately, and you can have both simultaneously, and neither contradict......

[PercibelTheren]

Forums: "We want to have long form content to keep us entertained for longer periods of time"

SE: Cosmic Exploration

Forums: " Why are you punishing people who can't play all day?"

- and the wheel continues to turn.

Anyone who defends the flipfloping of these forums is a joke. SE can only farm L's at this point.

I wonder if you're just misinterpreting things on purpose to sound antagonistic, since that seems to be what you always do. "punishing people who can't play all day" here doesn't mean "people who can't afford to spend all day grinding". It means "punishing people who have to go to work because the event is done mid-morning."