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    I'm dumb: please explain the CC UI to me

    As taken from the lodestone guide for Crystalline Conflict, I understand most of the UI, but one thing still eludes me: what is the team color that glows and when does it start glowing, and what for exactly? What is this supposed to model?

    As seen here, nothing glows:



    Where here the blue side glows:



    This doesn't seem to indicate the winning side since on the first picture nothing glows, yet there is one team clearly ahead, so what is this for?
    Furthermore, how can I quickly see which one is my team? Every time mid game when things are hectic I want to check quickly who is winning or what is the progress, but I'm always at a loss because the UI is just unable to tell me which side of the UI I'm on?

    Am I missing something or is this UI missing key info in spite of its rework? It's not like I don't have thousands of games done on the mode already, yet I still seem to be completely clueless when it comes to that UI banner... I can't be the only one that confused by it right?
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    Adding to this, can't we just have the game writing in big letters somewhere "currently: WINNING" or "LOSING" or "DRAW" so I don't have to painfully decipher the details at a glance? Really...
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    I believe the glowing side indicates who is currently in control of the crystal?

    And your team is always blue. Just compare the two progress bars (or the percentages above them).
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    I hope I'm understanding the question correctly. If I miss the point I'm very sorry! orz

    Do you mean the glow around the diamond-shaped element on the right (the one that says 35% in the first picture and that has a white glow and says 82% in the second picture)?


    As far as I understand, when the crystal reaches a checkpoint, it will glow while your progress to unlock your checkpoint accumulates/when the percentage number grows. It will stop glowing as soon as it becomes contested/an enemy player steps on the checkpoint and the progress growth halts. When the enemies step off the checkpoint the glow will return with the resuming progress growth. (So when enemies step on and off the glow will switch on and off as if someone was flickering a light switch.)

    The first picture shows a scenario when the crystal sits on the checkpoint but no player whatsoever is standing on it so it doesn't progress/doesn't glow despite not being contested by enemies (I found a recording of mine where that exact case is happening and it looks just like in the picture).

    So it's not about the winning side but purely about visualising the unlocking process. If team A has already unlocked their checkpoint (and has much more progress) but team B recaptures it, reaches their checkpoint and starts unlocking it, it will glow as shown in the picture.


    As for your team and the winning team:

    1. You are always blue, irrespective of whether you're Astra or Umbra.
    2. Your progress number (element 2 and 3 in the OP image) will always be on the side of your name.

    3. But your progress bar (element 9 and 10 in the OP image), i.e., the visual indicator of your progress will always be on the opposite side of your name.

    ---> If you want to have all information on your progress (visual indicator and percentage) you need to look in two different places.
    So the indication of the winning side is really unintuitive. (Great design, SE!)
    (Thus, since your number sits above the enemy's visual progress bar it's easy to think the number also belongs to the enemy. Because that would make sense. As they're visually grouped. But no.)




    4. Whether your team name (and correspondingly your progress bar) is on the left or the right depends on the map and can even change from game to game depending on the map.
    (Vulcano and Clockwork seem to switch it around randomly. I have to check wether other maps switch too. So far I have only found recordings of Palaistra where my progress bar is on the right. But yeah, you might have to readjuste anew with every game...)


    I hope that explanation made somewhat sense (and if that's not what you were asking sorry again orz).
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    Last edited by Loggos; 04-22-2025 at 01:40 AM.

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    No I meant the glowing sides of the bar (red and blue).

    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    And your team is always blue. Just compare the two progress bars (or the percentages above them).
    Alright, so, like on the minimap right?
    That's exactly the problem, they attribute blue and red to each of the two teams (astra and umbra), and even have one side of the arena blue and the other red, but then the UI also uses the same colours but to differentiate your team from the other team, meaning that the red team on the arena can be blue on the minimap and the progress UI? That's just unhinged, are they trying to give us headaches? Who designed this?

    Please allow me to configure which colours I want for my UI so I can set any other colour than blue and red please?
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    No as far as I can tell your arena side is always blue as well. So in terms of the colour blue your UI, your mini map, and your side of the ingame arena seem to be consistent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Alright, so, like on the minimap right?

    That's exactly the problem, they attribute blue and red to each of the two teams (astra and umbra), and even have one side of the arena blue and the other red, but then the UI also uses the same colours but to differentiate your team from the other team, meaning that the red team on the arena can be blue on the minimap and the progress UI?
    As far as I'm aware: Your side of the minimap is the blue side. Your side of the arena/field is the blue side. Everything for you is always blue.(The weird thing is that this means that the two teams looking at the same thing at the same time will see palette-swapped versions.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    (The weird thing is that this means that the two teams looking at the same thing at the same time will see palette-swapped versions.)
    Yep, that's correct. No team will ever see themselves coded as the red team. Everything red is always the enemy team.
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    Mh ok, then that's better? Are the flags next to the entrance swapped too?

    Edit: yeah they look swapped. Well that's better then. Thanks for the help
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    Last edited by Valence; 04-22-2025 at 02:47 AM.

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    Unless I missed something...



    ...the leftmost (or rightmost) part of the Crystalline Conflict UI bar -- or rather, your team's side of the bar -- pulses/glows when your team is currently in control of the crystal's progress.
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    Last edited by AmiableApkallu; 04-22-2025 at 11:28 AM. Reason: words are hard / i missed something

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