M6s in PF is the most miserable and unfun high end fight in the game

[Absurdity]

2nd floors (which M6S is) don't usually drop weapons.

They kinda do though.
The 2nd floor drops the Universal Tomestone, the item needed for the tomestone weapon, saving you 6 weeks of normal raids and more weapon damage is always a pretty significant dps increase.

Of course it's not literally required to clear, but the additional damage buffer makes it a lot easier, especially in PF where performance fluctuates wildly.

[Jeeqbit]

They kinda do though.
The 2nd floor drops the Universal Tomestone, the item needed for the tomestone weapon, saving you 6 weeks of normal raids and more weapon damage is always a pretty significant dps increase.

Of course it's not literally required to clear, but the additional damage buffer makes it a lot easier, especially in PF where performance fluctuates wildly.

True. But in any case, the problem solves itself by the 7th week (next week), when people can get the weapon augment without having set food in savage yet - not to mention 7 weeks of tomestone gear. Usually the 7th week you see a massive shift in how the first two floors melt. Which makes all these complaints short-sighted in a way.

[AllenThyl]

True. But in any case, the problem solves itself by the 7th week (next week), when people can get the weapon augment without having set food in savage yet - not to mention 7 weeks of tomestone gear. Usually the 7th week you see a massive shift in how the first two floors melt. Which makes all these complaints short-sighted in a way.

7 cruiser holosaber can be exchanged for 1 Universal Tomestone 2.0, which allows for purchase of an unaugmented tome weapon. The Ester for augmentation is exclusively available from m7s, and will only be available through other means late in 7.3, long after the release of 2nd Alliance raid.
Further, even BiS gear will not help groups that are making fundamental mistakes with their cooldown management, positioning, or not healing tanks when they require because somehow GCD casting a heal is worse wiping.

[Jeeqbit]

7 cruiser holosaber can be exchanged for 1 Universal Tomestone 2.0, which allows for purchase of an unaugmented tome weapon.

That's exactly what I said.

The Ester for augmentation is exclusively available from m7s, and will only be available through other means late in 7.3, long after the release of 2nd Alliance raid.

Very true, but the discussion was about how the unaugmented tome weapon makes it die faster.

Anyway, I'm told that reclears are pretty smooth and it's just prog parties having these issues.

[Arohk]

7 cruiser holosaber can be exchanged for 1 Universal Tomestone 2.0, which allows for purchase of an unaugmented tome weapon.

The Tome Weapon is too expensive, there should be one weapon for tomes, and another one for a Stone.