SUGGESTION: Change cadence of FL map rotation

[Mawlzy]

Frontline is currently two different modes, tenuously related by common job kits.

Secure and Shatter are essentially PvE modes where fighting is allowed.

Seize and Onsal are PvP modes in which objectives influence positioning.

I imagine there are some individuals that are entertained by all four maps, but I think most people are going to fall into one camp or the other.

In some cases, this means only playing Frontline two days out of four. A great shame given the positive changes to jobs and gameplay in 7.2.

Assuming there are people who enjoy Secure and Shatter so that we can't just scrap the monstrosities, can we at least switch to a more rapid map rotation like CC, so that on any given day we all have reason to login to FFXIV.

[TofuLove]

I'd be down to try it.

Playing devil's advocate:
I like knowing that today i can rest because it's shatter day
Also organising q syncs for specific maps will become a nightmare
Will this get min-maxed and casuals will find a secret way to throw games quicker for their sweet sweet exp/tomes?

On the plus side:
I know some people only play certain maps and I'd like to see them more frequently.
Variety is a spice of life

[Mawlzy]

I'd be down to try it.

Playing devil's advocate:
I like knowing that today i can rest because it's shatter day
Also organising q syncs for specific maps will become a nightmare
Will this get min-maxed and casuals will find a secret way to throw games quicker for their sweet sweet exp/tomes?

On the plus side:
I know some people only play certain maps and I'd like to see them more frequently.
Variety is a spice of life

I'm sure Q-synchers have the organizational skills to figure it out.

Even on the two maps I like it'd be nice to play both of them the same day, punctuated by naps.

[TofuLove]

I'm sure Q-synchers have the organizational skills to figure it out.

I think you are underestimating how much people DONT want to play some maps, which would make qsync turn out really poor or people will leave half way through the event. If anything it just reinforces that we need custom games for this specific purpose. Anyway - I suppose this isn't the point of the suggestion, and they will just need to adjust.

Regardless, I agree that daily rotation has always been a sort of a bugbear for me. On the plus side it allowed me to farm achievements I want more efficiently - but now that I have those, variety is more fun.

[Divinemights]

I'm sure Q-synchers have the organizational skills to figure it out.

Even on the two maps I like it'd be nice to play both of them the same day, punctuated by naps.

You may hear people claiming Seize and Onsal Hakir are better PvP mode, but it is just like flat earth theory, a myth.
The fact is Shatter has been the most popular mode
Before they put in rotation restriction, Shatter is always you will get when you enter via roulette and Secure with 24 men
When they introducing Onsal Hakir, they force blocked all other modes and made everyone played this mode only for almost 6 months
I do realize you dislike Secure and Shatter but you assume too much that everyone shared same opinion
Current rotation is fine as it is
You can go play rank/casual CC when it is Secure/Shatter

[Mawlzy]

You may hear people claiming Seize and Onsal Hakir are better PvP mode, but it is just like flat earth theory, a myth.
The fact is Shatter has been the most popular mode
Before they put in rotation restriction, Shatter is always you will get when you enter via roulette and Secure with 24 men
When they introducing Onsal Hakir, they force blocked all other modes and made everyone played this mode only for almost 6 months
I do realize you dislike Secure and Shatter but you assume too much that everyone shared same opinion
Current rotation is fine as it is
You can go play rank/casual CC when it is Secure/Shatter

If I assumed everyone shared my preference I'd be calling for Secure/Shatter to be removed. I recognize some people prefer those two maps.

My suggestion simply ensures that, on any given day, those of us firmly in one camp or the other get to play FL. I see no downside to this suggestion.

[Divinemights]

If I assumed everyone shared my preference I'd be calling for Secure/Shatter to be removed. I recognize some people prefer those two maps.
My suggestion simply ensures that, on any given day, those of us firmly in one camp or the other get to play FL. I see no downside to this suggestion.

Yes, I know what you are asking and I am simply recall a fact checking to show you that is not feasible.
Seize never pops when we have the option to choose mode freely
It was always 72 men Shatter and 24 men Secure every 15 mins.
Even when they added Onsal Hakir, it is still Shatter pop most of the time after 6 months lock out
This is why they forced current mode rotation

[Mawlzy]

Yes, I know what you are asking and I am simply recall a fact checking to show you that is not feasible.
Seize never pops when we have the option to choose mode freely
It was always 72 men Shatter and 24 men Secure every 15 mins.
Even when they added Onsal Hakir, it is still Shatter pop most of the time after 6 months lock out
This is why they forced current mode rotation

Sorry, not following.

If the map swaps every, say, 4 hours instead of every 24, there is still a rotation. How is that not "feasible"?

[Divinemights]

Sorry, not following.

If the map swaps every, say, 4 hours instead of every 24, there is still a rotation. How is that not "feasible"?

Good luck with that idea.

[Mawlzy]

Good luck with that idea.

Thank you, but I can't take credit for the idea. It's SE's idea. I just scaled it based on match length and the 90-minute rotation of maps in Crystalline Conflict.