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  1. #61
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    MiaBlaze-Cari's Avatar
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    Leda Crysthira
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
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    Individual characters are tracked via their ContentID, not their AccountID. The ContentID basically is the ID for the specific character, which allowed the tracking you were mentioning before. However the AccountID is a separate one which allows linking the ContentID to an account. I suppose you've mistaken these 2 different IDs which is why the misunderstanding came up in the first place. But yea, this is basically where the danger from playerscope comes from as it allows to stalk different characters of the same person as long as they're on the same account.
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    Last edited by MiaBlaze-Cari; 04-24-2025 at 06:23 AM. Reason: shortened the quote as the original post was altered
    Boop!

  2. #62
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    Naomi Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    If you want to soundoff that idk what im talking about at least make sure you can't be proven to be an uninformed idiot in seconds with a Google Search.
    You're beyond help and set on being a clown on this hill you're fighting on, since you're incredibly "reading impaired" (ironic since you are calling other people that), let me spell this out for you in terms you can understand.

    - Playertrack uses Lodestone and ID's that are linked to your character, this is why it allows you to see encounters, name-changes, world changes (etc...). It has never been able to see if two separate characters (ALTs) belong to the same Square Enix user and account.
    - Playerscope uses AccountID which is not tied to your character like the lodestone, it's instead tied to your Square Enix account and thus, links all of your characters. This information was never offered in either the front-end or back-end to users until the Dawntrail expansion patch.

    You're yapping on about how knowledgeable you are on the topic cause you're in a "Discord" for this community. Way to openly advertise you're in use of and promoting third party tools on the official forums, that post totally wont get reported. However, you cluelessly and completely overlook that this discussion is not about the problematic features that Playertrack and many similar third-party tools have offered, much of which are very difficult to patch. This discussion is about the new visibility of a completely different ID that you clearly do not understand or comprehend, instead you continue yapping on about things everybody knows.

    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Again for the reading impaired, the account IDs have always been available as mods existed long before that route to the lodestone info of accounts regardless of name/server change and update via mod, in real time. SE did not even deny it being available in their notice, only that they would try to add subterfuge to process via resetting client data etc.
    Your statement here says all we need to know about how clueless you are about this topic. You're confidently saying "account IDs have always been available as mods existed long before that route to the lodestone info" which is completely and utterly incorrect, all the features that Playertrack and its predecessors use are based on Lodestone and individual character ID's, not account ID's. I will end by quoting, one more time; the official developers of the plugin launcher itself, the developers of the entire memory-accessing framework that all these repositories and plugins are built upon, they say;

    "With the introduction of the new blacklist features in Dawntrail, the game servers now send Content IDs and Account IDs for players in certain conditions. [...] This entire situation is a side effect of the blacklist changes introduced in Dawntrail, and a tool to extract and track Account IDs was an inevitable development and was not restricted to the plugin ecosystem."

    You might try to skew this with your misunderstandings and misinformation and argue that they state the "game servers" now offer this information and that "lodestone" always did, but as with the rest of your nonsense on this thread, you would be incorrect, again. Because you're arguing for some reason that the ID's offered by Lodestone are somehow the same as AccountID's, which—they are not.

    If you were being stalked or harassed by somebody, successfully created an ALT and continued playing this new character, they would never know, no matter what plugins they used, that this was you. However, with this new vulnerability, it only takes the plugin seeing your main once and it is game over, this person will now know all of your alts.
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    Last edited by flowerkatie; 04-24-2025 at 10:37 AM.

  3. #63
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    I also agree this is a major issue.
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  4. #64
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    Fam Srta
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    Who knows what compels some people to defend billion dollar companies doing the bare minimum and not giving a shit about their consumers, but I guess this is what late stage capitalism looks like.
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  5. #65
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    Maximilien Dufort
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    I would hardly call discord a mod or third party tool that’s banned. It doesn’t alter the game or code and consoles can use it.

    As for the rest, it is a problem, it needs to be sorted but I lack the knowledge to put forth even the smallest suggestion. Just throwing support for the thread out there.
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  6. #66
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    Freja Heleh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Again for the reading impaired
    It’s curious how rudeness so often goes with ignorance. A bit of self awareness won’t be a bad thing to try here.
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    Well it's still not working.
    Still haven't forgotten.
    Kind of a shame really.
    I remember this subject was still getting more impassioned engagement than Moon thingy when it came out.
    For the internet at large that would be normal. But XIV used to have a really positive enthusiastic 'fan' base. But it's not the games fault. It's people's fault. They must have changed. If only people realised it's them that need to change again. /sadface
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    Last edited by Gurgeh; 04-26-2025 at 03:24 PM.

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    PSA This is still a thing. SQX CB3 have still not said anything. (probably? I assume? XIV content has dropped off my YouTube feed.)
    I would say something controversial to re-ignite engagement but it's not something I have the energy to artificially manufacture. Plus, SQX is making it real hard for people not be either bored or totally unsurprised by anything they might read.
    Yah I got nothing.
    Fix it SQX. Roll it back. This is bad.
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