Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
Generally speaking I don't think beginners/casuals should dive straight into the latest raid tier. There's a natural progression between normal content, old extremes, old savages, new extremes, new savages. I'm not saying they need to have completed all old savage content before playing a new tier, but following that progression can help a lot with understanding what they're getting into and what's expected of them.

Regarding seeing enrage in m1s with only a couple deaths, I can't really comment without knowing more details like the boss' HP and the general party gear setup during the session. If we're taking about 1% at enrage, I wouldn't chase my party members over missed dps. If we're talking 15% it's time for the party as a whole to get reflective as to what's going wrong. At the end of the day, beginners won't magically stop being beginners because they're using a banned addon. It takes practice and patience and attention.

That all said, I don't think this thread is really talking about how a beginner might improve at savage, so I think we've gotten off topic.
I think the biggest difference between a beginner and a seasoned raider is not class proficiency but the mental fortitude they developed. The ability to deal with stressful situations and overcome roadblocks. Of course, knowledge and progression is useful but I think the grit/ mental fortitude plays a much more impactful role in raiding.