Thread: 2.0 Grass: please change!

I didn't care to go through all of this but something I wonder if anyone's considered... They're running this on lower settings most likely, maybe even a laptop. It's very well possible the grass here is just a low-res textured version. They're very well aware one of the selling points of this game is the graphics, why would they deliver such a thing like this without considering that first? Seeing as these are just supposed to be "screenshots" of the game's current phase and to show off what they've worked on so far I'm doubtful they'd intend to leave it like that.

I won't deny the grass looks pretty bad. However I think some people are just taking it far too much out of proportion. I'm going to hold onto hope however what we're seeing isn't indeed a final product. That grass does seem out of place the way they've got it lined up now, but isn't something worth quitting over or throwing a tantrum over either.

EDIT: Something I remembered too, they're supposed to be making the game playable by even lower end PCs aren't they? Like laptops? Is it possible then that they're just displaying what it would look like on a lower-end system, but on a high-end PC the grass/plants/foliage will look much better and much more animated.

I do recall several games will do that, have lesser quality of some objects/textures for weaker systems. And for those with systems above average they'll improve textures or certain elements.

Originally Posted by mhaid2000

Alright. Im gonna come out and say it because im tired of holding this in, but you people are acting absolutely ridiculous about this grass crap. The grass is fine. If you really think a game is gonna fail because of fricken grass, then you need to rethink what you are talking about. You people all begged for gameplay footage of FFXIV:ARR and when you get it you pick it apart because of grass?! Seriously?! This man has worked his butt off to make FFXIV:ARR the final fantasy game you all wanted it to be and you pick it apart for something stupid. This game has the most negative community ive ever seen and you all honestly are acting like little kids about this grass stuff. Its very simple, if you dont like the direction the game is going in, then quit and dont come back. Not a hard thing to do.

Who.
Why is legitimately complaining this hard about grass to the point where they will quit the game or announce its failure? Tell me their names and I will launch a full investigation.

If something as trivial to gameplay and/or story such as grass is enough to get you to quit a game then you must go through all other games at blinding speed declaring how horrible they all are. Unless the grass was actually big purple tentacles that reached up and did unmentionable things to you while you're playing, it's really not a big deal.

Some of this forum frenzy, is like, when someone makes one of those sarcastic threads (>.>) where everyone posts not getting the joke, and the replies are so obviously under the water, except that.. there was no sarcastic thread to begin with, and no one ever said they were upset or going to quit! It's like THE UNIVERSE spoke its frustration against 2.0 and the animals started doing a raindance to calm its wrath.

Or something like that.

Anyway:

Originally Posted by Mihana

I won't deny the grass looks pretty bad. However I think some people are just taking it far too much out of proportion. I'm going to hold onto hope however what we're seeing isn't indeed a final product. That grass does seem out of place the way they've got it lined up now, but isn't something worth quitting over or throwing a tantrum over either.

EDIT: Something I remembered too, they're supposed to be making the game playable by even lower end PCs aren't they? Like laptops? Is it possible then that they're just displaying what it would look like on a lower-end system, but on a high-end PC the grass/plants/foliage will look much better and much more animated.

I do recall several games will do that, have lesser quality of some objects/textures for weaker systems. And for those with systems above average they'll improve textures or certain elements.

Who's taking it out of proprortion by the way? lol. Well, before you blindly hope for better grass, what is your perspective on the OP suggestion?

About low spec PCs, typically what you see there is a setting to adjust the amount of foilage, not the "quality". I'm pretty sure the image of the foilage is not a texture. Anyone care to weigh in on that? Gramul? If it IS a poly, it seems to be cut into that blocky shape already, and in that case no amount of settings or high spec pcs are going to change that mesh, if it is a mesh. And if it's a bitmap then no amount of settings are going to change the bitmap that is already saved to your hard drive. And ANYWAY, there's no need for such speculation since this is the same art asset used in 1.0. Take a look around 1.0 if you want to see how it looks. It doesn't animate now and it looks super blocky. The only difference is that it's rarely seen so conspicuously in 1.0 since it is generally bunched up into little bush patches where the flaws of it are minimized.

Check out how these plants and grass look in Xenoblade. Important distinction: don't imagine how FFXIV would look with this amount of grass, just how each piece would individually look in place of the jagged looking plants in the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md41TVkvvnE&t=1m31s