Ban premades from frontline, fix all issues

[AristocraticCorgi]

That would involve telling people that they don't even meet the current skill floor, implying they are bad at the game - which could possibly upset the player's feelings. That's not allowed on SE's watch.

You don't pay their sub. And SE needs and wants their sub.

[Sunhwapark]

You don't pay their sub. And SE needs and wants their sub.

I don't quite understand what this is supposed to mean, sorry.

[AristocraticCorgi]

I don't quite understand what this is supposed to mean, sorry.

It's an old inside joke.

Players who don't care about improving will never do it even if asked politely to do so for the benefit of their teams.

[Miohazuki]

The new meta makes it impossible to play against premades, for the love of god make it solo queue, then they can q snipe each other.

At least not every new player is getting rolled in and never playing again.

The pvp in wow and ffxiv should not be taken seriously .

[Exmo]

Put premades in their own matchmaking queue.

Reduce queue pop requirement to 36 players. More can be added within first 5 minutes.

Problem solved.

[UkcsAlias]

Put premades in their own matchmaking queue.

The moment you can put 3 equal sized premade groups into 1 game, thats all that is needed. It doesnt matter that its just 4 people as premade per team, the remaining 20 people can still be random. This can make the requirement a lot lower. There is no need to demand a premade in every party then.

[Mawlzy]

The moment you can put 3 equal sized premade groups into 1 game, thats all that is needed. It doesnt matter that its just 4 people as premade per team, the remaining 20 people can still be random. This can make the requirement a lot lower. There is no need to demand a premade in every party then.

I think in principle this is an interesting step, but in practice it needs a little more. There are people queuing in as light parties on Aether who appear to do so to protect themselves against vote kicks, as they spend the entire match telling "jokes" and avoiding combat.

If you could somehow arrange matches such that each team had a premade trying to win, and featuring a shot-caller (which I think is your intent), my instinct is it would improve matches.

[Exmo]

I think in principle this is an interesting step, but in practice it needs a little more. There are people queuing in as light parties on Aether who appear to do so to protect themselves against vote kicks, as they spend the entire match telling "jokes" and avoiding combat.

If you could somehow arrange matches such that each team had a premade trying to win, and featuring a shot-caller (which I think is your intent), my instinct is it would improve matches.

In my experience, the premades who are noteworthy enough to be a problem are either frustrating to play against or boring to play with. I don't want to be saddled with a premade by default, in lieu of simply matching them against one another exclusively which is the much simpler and more effective solution.