Ban premades from frontline, fix all issues

[Valence]

I mean CC has a hidden MMR system, so why not FLs? We even have our own win rates shown in the pvp menu, which isn't even the case for CC. The data is already there. If the system tries to balance out each team's hidden MMR, then it could potentially help make things less lopsided.
But of course, it won't address the problem of leechers. I personally never really paid attention to them tbh.

[Divinemights]

I mean CC has a hidden MMR system, so why not FLs? We even have our own win rates shown in the pvp menu, which isn't even the case for CC. The data is already there. If the system tries to balance out each team's hidden MMR, then it could potentially help make things less lopsided.
But of course, it won't address the problem of leechers. I personally never really paid attention to them tbh.

I don't seed any point with Frontline and MMR.
There is also something called casual Crystal Conflict where it absolutely has no premade and there is no 3rd GC as random variable.
But they are not going there because you know why?
These people are the one with mindset of "I am so good that I will kill everyone I see, if I got killed, they are 100% premade"
Don't like fighting against premade or friend play together?
They can go play casual Crystal Conflict?
I go either casual or ranked during Seize myself

Aether or Crystal premade comes play on Primal frontline all the time by the way.

[Valence]

I don't seed any point with Frontline and MMR.
There is also something called casual Crystal Conflict where it absolutely has no premade and there is no 3rd GC as random variable.
But they are not going there because you know why?
These people are the one with mindset of "I am so good that I will kill everyone I see, if I got killed, they are 100% premade"
Don't like fighting against premade or friend play together?
They can go play casual Crystal Conflict?
I go either casual or ranked during Seize myself

Aether or Crystal premade comes play on Primal frontline all the time by the way.

I am genuinely confused by your post? I don't understand what this is supposed to be mean.
The only thing I expressed is that I see little drawbacks into having a matchmaking ensuring that FL get a bit more balance between each team in terms of skills.

You seem to be talking about people specifically unhappy about premades, sure, but what's your angle there? What does it have to do with having a simple system making FL more balanced? I just reacted from MMR balance, I'm not here to shit on premades or defend premades. If anything, premades just annoy me when they end on my team. I think I have a pretty solid track records on those forums actually defending the ability to queue up with friends, and even supported consistently the idea to introduce duo queues in CC (with safeguards).


Edit: my opinion on premades for anybody trying to fit me into any sides, tl;dr edition

-> If you're pissed because you die to premades, learn to play against them, or just understand that you just got played by people that are leagues above you and readjust the ego. Your team may not have the biggest chances to win without one yourself, but you never know, and that's not what matters in FL anyway. Play for yourself, and the good plays, and you'll enjoy it a lot more.
-> If you end up in a team of premades and usually enjoy pvp, then cross your fingers for the enemy teams to be competent, else enjoy feeling like a healer in a pve dungeon (borderline useless).

[Atreus]

I am genuinely confused by your post? I don't understand what this is supposed to be mean.
The only thing I expressed is that I see little drawbacks into having a matchmaking ensuring that FL get a bit more balance between each team in terms of skills.

You seem to be talking about people specifically unhappy about premades, sure, but what's your angle there? What does it have to do with having a simple system making FL more balanced? I just reacted from MMR balance, I'm not here to shit on premades or defend premades. If anything, premades just annoy me when they end on my team. I think I have a pretty solid track records on those forums actually defending the ability to queue up with friends, and even supported consistently the idea to introduce duo queues in CC (with safeguards).


Edit: my opinion on premades for anybody trying to fit me into any sides, tl;dr edition

-> If you're pissed because you die to premades, learn to play against them, or just understand that you just got played by people that are leagues above you and readjust the ego. Your team may not have the biggest chances to win without one yourself, but you never know, and that's not what matters in FL anyway. Play for yourself, and the good plays, and you'll enjoy it a lot more.
-> If you end up in a team of premades and usually enjoy pvp, then cross your fingers for the enemy teams to be competent, else enjoy feeling like a healer in a pve dungeon (borderline useless).

What Divinemights saying is that 9 out of 10 people here complaining about premades are disingenuous as shit and do not care about better games or matchmaking.

I'm just glad JP isn't over there complaining about it, so fat chance of this nonsense gaining traction.

[Mawlzy]

What Divinemights saying is that 9 out of 10 people here complaining about premades are disingenuous as shit and do not care about better games or matchmaking.

I'm just glad JP isn't over there complaining about it, so fat chance of this nonsense gaining traction.

I'll give you 5-6/10.

[AristocraticCorgi]

Admit it guys.

Pushing for solo queue will save FL.

Let's do it!

[OliviaLugria]

Basic competency would save FL.

[Mistress_Irika]

Basic competency would save FL.

Good luck getting to that state.

Admit it guys.

Pushing for solo queue will save FL.

Let's do it!

Everyone being solo will only make things more dull. No more protecting your teammates (not that everyone relies on this in the first place). Everyone racing to destroy the objectives. Everyone stacking on top of the highest ranking objective. 20% of the room accepting afkers on the team. Another part sending those that cares about winning frontlines to ranked CC.
If you happened to be a soloist that can easily pick up kills at that point you're just going to get your classes target nerfed until you are forced to rely on the team. That way, they don't have to die as fast.

Maybe I am overexaggerating things. However, between 5.2 and now there's hardly been any changes as to how everyone plays the game.

[nerfsmn]

olivia heres a challenge, go on crystal, play solo, do your commanders roleplayer stuff and see what happens.

Premades gotta go