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  1. #1
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    MistressMinfilia's Avatar
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    Tite Kupo
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    Goblin
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    Arcanist Lv 100

    Petition for Hrothgar and Viera Headgear

    Hello fellow Warriors of Light,

    I’d like to bring attention to an ongoing issue that affects many players in our community: the lack of full headgear support for Hrothgar and Viera characters.

    While we’ve seen some improvements over time, headgear compatibility for these two races remains limited—restricting player expression, glamour creativity, and in some cases, functionality. For a game that celebrates individuality and fashion through its robust glamour system, this limitation can feel isolating for those who chose these races for their unique aesthetic and identity.

    ������ We’re respectfully requesting that the development team consider further expanding headgear compatibility for Hrothgar and Viera.

    We understand that implementing universal support takes time and resources, and we truly appreciate the updates that have already been made. But we also believe this is an important quality-of-life issue that deserves renewed attention—especially with growing interest in character customization across the board.

    To help organize community feedback and show just how many players are passionate about this, we’ve created a petition and dedicated campaign:

    ������ Our Petition

    The petition includes a Japanese translation to ensure accessibility and visibility for our friends in the JP playerbase as well.
    We’ve also launched a landing page with more details and links to join the conversation.

    ������ Our Campaigns Site

    Thank you for taking the time to read, and thank you to the devs for everything you do to keep Eorzea vibrant and ever-evolving. Whether you’re a Hrothgar longing for a proper helm, or a Viera dreaming of a glam to match your raid team, we hope you’ll join us in respectfully asking:

    Let them glamour. Let them wear hats.

    #LetThemGlamour
    #GlamForAll
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    Last edited by MistressMinfilia; 04-08-2025 at 01:45 AM. Reason: Updated URL

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    #hatsforhroths
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    Marilith
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    I was there until I saw the AI art? Really, there are no other options like screenshots from this game at all?
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCheshire View Post
    I was there until I saw the AI art? Really, there are no other options like screenshots from this game at all?
    Screenshots have copy right and you are not allowed to use it outside of personal usage, a petition is not personal usage.
    So if you have no money, the usage of an ai tool to visualize your idea, is not the worst idea.
    No artist was hurt and rob there money from not hiring them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharindel View Post
    Screenshots have copy right and you are not allowed to use it outside of personal usage, a petition is not personal usage.
    So if you have no money, the usage of an ai tool to visualize your idea, is not the worst idea.
    No artist was hurt and rob there money from not hiring them.
    I'm pretty sure most FFXIV players know what viera/hroth look like, along with hats, so it feels odd to say we didn't have any other resources available. Also, AI Gen steals from other artists and uses energy to create uncanny valley images for no reason. There are a bunch of stock images if you really need to show players what hats look like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCheshire View Post
    I was there until I saw the AI art? Really, there are no other options like screenshots from this game at all?
    Hey, I totally get the AI thing. In this case, though, it wasn’t about replacing artists or cutting corners. We just needed a way to show what could be possible for Hrothgar and Viera if they could actually wear more hats. Screenshots wouldn’t help us convey something that’s not there (I may be wording that odd) , and the AI helped us illustrate the point quickly and clearly. That’s all. If we had a way to show it in-game—or the budget to commission something custom—we’d absolutely go that route. For now, this was just the most accessible way to add visuals and get the message across. If anyone wants to donate art to the cause, I’d love to feature it in the campaign! But since this isn’t monetized or being used for any kind of financial gain, I ultimately felt okay with using AI in this specific context.
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    Kami Wulfrun
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    Phantom
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    Please don't use AI, even really bad paint job is better, I get you didn't want to pay for art made for it, but this really leaves a bitter taste of wanting to sign this, even as a hrothgar wanting hats
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    Rin Yamaneko
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    Scholar Lv 100
    You had me until you showed the AI Slop
    Consider removing the AI slop, if nothing else, because it looks rancid and bad
    Use modified screenshots from the game, I know you can find some, those would have a higher impact
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    7.3 WILL SAVE HROTHGAR!! TRUST THE PROCESS!!

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    Minali Flo'uf
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    Considering there are plenty of, uh, visualization support things around related to the hat issue, not to mention free graphic programs like Krita or, idk, microsoft paint, I'm pretty sure there would have been options to get visualization without having to resort to AI trash.
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    Last edited by Minali; 04-09-2025 at 11:15 PM.

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    Umashu Sandwich
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    Goblin
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    The AI art has been removed, thank you all for your feedback. ❤️
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