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    NarhiFaunlha's Avatar
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    Varha Linotha
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    Balmung
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    Viper Lv 100

    Secure Sucks. Team Deathmatch please?

    Yet another PvP* game mode where you run around like a chicken with its head cut off before frantically running to middle only to frantically run away.

    *PvP optional.


    In all seriousness, there really should be a Team Deathmatch mode- or failing that- a simple land grab mode. I'm not sure what compels SE to consistently create PvP modes with PvE gimmicks but its getting old.

    Take Seal Rock (Seize) but make the nodes permanent. Maybe switch around which one is an S rank or a B rank or allow some nodes to provide a passive buff (like the Oasis in CC) or something to that effect. I'd love to see environmental hazards incorporated into the game mode as well.

    Just something- anything- instead of the current Frontline formula. I'm begging you SE.

    Borderland Ruins landgrab mode where specific nodes give you an LB boost, damage boost, regen, or damage should would drastically improve the flow. Maybe even randomize which effects are active if any.
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    Moomba33's Avatar
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    Eva Gamirdren
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    Ultros
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    Funnily enough, we used to have a Deathmatch FL mode that recycled the Secure map, it was called Slaughter and was removed in Stormblood. I never actually played it, but I don't recall it being popular.
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    Jessa Marko
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    Really feels very odd in an alleged PvP mode being confronted with stack markers and towers to soak.
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    Vive la résistance!

    Finalement, Boucles d'or goûta le porridge dans le bol de Bébé Ours. "Miam Miam, ce porridge est parfait!" dit-elle, et elle mangea le bol entier de porridge.

    Je m'habille comme une reine, je frappe comme une mule.

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    MisterNublet's Avatar
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    Autechre Voidmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moomba33 View Post
    Funnily enough, we used to have a Deathmatch FL mode that recycled the Secure map, it was called Slaughter and was removed in Stormblood. I never actually played it, but I don't recall it being popular.
    Probably the same reason why it wouldn't be very popular now.

    Players can't "afk" if there isn't any PvE nodes to pretend like they're participating in the match.

    Also harder to report them for lethargic gameplay after they go 0 kills 8 deaths 0 assists and 50k damage against players when they have !<300k damage against "others".
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    I'm extremely frustrated by the current situation.

    The 7.2 changes for the jobs, hit detection, role actions etc., I think are nearly all positive. Frontline feels fun to play.

    Except I only play half the time because Shatter and Borderlands are absolutely miserable.

    Whoever came up with the idea "PvP would be way more fun with PvE in it" - you're completely wrong.
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    Vive la résistance!

    Finalement, Boucles d'or goûta le porridge dans le bol de Bébé Ours. "Miam Miam, ce porridge est parfait!" dit-elle, et elle mangea le bol entier de porridge.

    Je m'habille comme une reine, je frappe comme une mule.

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    Altria Pendragons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    I'm extremely frustrated by the current situation.

    The 7.2 changes for the jobs, hit detection, role actions etc., I think are nearly all positive. Frontline feels fun to play.
    Except I only play half the time because Shatter and Borderlands are absolutely miserable.
    Whoever came up with the idea "PvP would be way more fun with PvE in it" - you're completely wrong.
    Each has their own opinion.
    I personally enjoy Secure because I don't need to deal with dumb people and actually have higher first place percentage in Secure (about 38.4% solo joined)
    Secure and Shatter is about resource control and spawn timer control.
    Horde stampede simply don't work and that is such a breath of fresh air.
    Don't follow the crowd, be a lonewolf in Secure just to kill and steal outpost.
    You should try it sometime
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    Last edited by Divinemights; 04-08-2025 at 01:06 PM.

  7. #7
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    They can't have a mode where all you do is deathmatch, there needs to be a node or a crystal or something to distract you from how bad the actual PvP is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Each has their own opinion.
    I personally enjoy Secure because I don't need to deal with dumb people and actually have higher first place percentage in Secure (about 38.4% solo joined)
    Secure and Shatter is about resource control and spawn timer control.
    Horde stampede simply don't work and that is such a breath of fresh air.
    Don't follow the crowd, be a lonewolf in Secure just to kill and steal outpost.
    You should try it sometime
    Since 1v1 kills are essentially impossible, this reduces to grabbing unsecured outposts. That isn't PvP. It's riding around on a mount.
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    Vive la résistance!

    Finalement, Boucles d'or goûta le porridge dans le bol de Bébé Ours. "Miam Miam, ce porridge est parfait!" dit-elle, et elle mangea le bol entier de porridge.

    Je m'habille comme une reine, je frappe comme une mule.

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    Runic Raven
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    Zodiark
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NarhiFaunlha View Post
    Yet another PvP* game mode where you run around like a chicken with its head cut off before frantically running to middle only to frantically run away.

    *PvP optional.


    In all seriousness, there really should be a Team Deathmatch mode- or failing that- a simple land grab mode. I'm not sure what compels SE to consistently create PvP modes with PvE gimmicks but its getting old.

    Take Seal Rock (Seize) but make the nodes permanent. Maybe switch around which one is an S rank or a B rank or allow some nodes to provide a passive buff (like the Oasis in CC) or something to that effect. I'd love to see environmental hazards incorporated into the game mode as well.

    Just something- anything- instead of the current Frontline formula. I'm begging you SE.

    Borderland Ruins landgrab mode where specific nodes give you an LB boost, damage boost, regen, or damage should would drastically improve the flow. Maybe even randomize which effects are active if any.
    Of Course it sucks.. the supposed "rework" was just a facelift and added !PvE! mechanics..... And that bit took them, what was it, 2 Years? Absolute Madness.
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    If they ever add more PvP modes I hope they remain small scale like CC is. FL and RW are clown fiesta with their custom damage modifiers and battle high etc.
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