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  1. 04-07-2025 10:20 AM #1
    AmiableApkallu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    with new summoner where people say "feels like your actually summoning things" I feel disconnect because I really don't feel like I'm summoning anything I press a button big summon on screen then goes off after like one attack
    Yet, that's exactly how "summoning" worked in FFIV and FFVI, so it's not without precedent in the franchise.

    The problem is that for that model to work in FFXIV, you probably need 10+ summons with varying characteristics and costs. "Push button to deal damage with a different color" doesn't quite carry the same weight.
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  2. 04-07-2025 10:30 AM #2
    Rithy255
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    Yet, that's exactly how "summoning" worked in FFIV and FFVI, so it's not without precedent in the franchise.

    The problem is that for that model to work in FFXIV, you probably need 10+ summons with varying characteristics and costs. "Push button to deal damage with a different color" doesn't quite carry the same weight.
    I much prefer summons actually lasting personally It doesn't need to be a full on pet job (i don't mind that) but surely theirs a interesting design that isn't just "titan appears on screen and goes away"
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  3. 04-07-2025 12:34 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu View Post
    Yet, that's exactly how "summoning" worked in FFIV and FFVI, so it's not without precedent in the franchise.

    The problem is that for that model to work in FFXIV, you probably need 10+ summons with varying characteristics and costs. "Push button to deal damage with a different color" doesn't quite carry the same weight.
    Though old SMN functions similar to 10, 11 and 12. A near permanent summon that stayed on the field and offered you advantage (outside of it replacing your party)

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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess
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  4. 04-07-2025 01:19 PM #4
    Rithy255
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Though old SMN functions similar to 10, 11 and 12. A near permanent summon that stayed on the field and offered you advantage (outside of it replacing your party)

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    To me a summoner like that is way more fitting thematically, instead of just summoning something to appear for 2 seconds and do a attack then go.
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